Tony offered a million plus to fight Williams!!!

[Kev]

Tony and any of his fans that are defending this nonsense are huge hypocrites.

So it was such a "chicken" move for PBF to turn down a fight against Margarito in order to fight for THE SAME MONEY against THE LINEAR WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION when he had a $15 MILLION FIGHT AGAINST OSCAR waiting for him next,

but it's totally legit for Tony to turn down a fight against Williams, for far more money than he's ever made in his career, in order to fight a "tune up" for WAY LESS MONEY against a NO-NAME CHUMP when he has a fight AGAINST COTTO FOR NOT MUCH MORE MONEY THAN HE'D GET VS. WILLIAMS waiting for him next??

Could a Margarito fan please make these two things consistent for me?

Maybe he's hired the same career advisor as Joe Calzaghe?

[albsur2006]

Personally, I think it's funny because Tony is just a toy for Arum to play with. It's sad. Tony's probably only gonna make at most 2 million, if that, for the Cotto fight while Cotto makes around 4. If Tony beats Williams, then he gets a million for that fight plus he raises the profile of the Cotto fight and he probably could get parity for the Cotto fight just because he walks in as champion and can negotiate. I don't know what the hell Tony thinks he is gonna make. The pot for Taylor vs Winky was 10 million. The Mayweather Margarito fight only had a pot of 9 million dollars with Floyd making 8 mil and Tony making 1 mil. For god sakes, Shane Mosley only made three million dollars in the second fight with Vargas. And Mosley is a guy whose used to making 6 or 7 million. The elite and popular fighters who aren't named Floyd and Oscar are barely making above three million. Does Tony think he's gonna all of a sudden gonna make 3 million? Does he think that Cotto-Margarito is as big a fight as PBF vs Tony?? Because if he does, he's gonna be disappointed with his check.

Tony has no room to negotiate with no belt. Tony isn't pound for pound, Tony isn't popular with the general public, the boxing public, or even Mexicans, that WBO belt is the only thing that defines Tony and he's underestimating how much he needs it. And he'll HAVE to take what Arum offers him for the Cotto fight because if Tony doesn't like the deal then Arum can just put him on ice while he substitutes Tony with Mosley/Collazo or Hatton or Floyd or Cintron to grab another belt. Arum nor Cotto really need Tony and it's obvious because Arum obviously doesn't care about Tony's activity. Tony isn't making money for Arum anyway. Arum would slice his wrists if Cotto was that inactive because Cotto will be a cashcow and he really cares about Cotto's future, it's obvious. With no belt, Arum doesn't have to keep Tony active. If Tony thinks it's hard getting a fight now, imagine how tough it will be when he's got no belt. No one will fight him. Tony is trying to get ONE payday but it could screw his whole career up. Tony should start thinking about his future and take the Williams fight. If Tony loses, he's got a million dollars, if he wins, then he makes almost double for the Cotto fight. It's a no brainer IMO.

[tommygunn]

margarito is a buster and wish him and everybody else would stop riding the cintron fight.

maybe so but if he gets the job done against cotto then theres o doubt its true what the majority of knowledgable boxing fans know, that he's the best fighter in the 147 division.

he ain't the best

who's is then with no mayweather and hatton there, tony is the longest serving champ and that makes him #1 in my book.

[tommygunn]

Tony and any of his fans that are defending this nonsense are huge hypocrites.

So it was such a "chicken" move for PBF to turn down a fight against Margarito in order to fight for THE SAME MONEY against THE LINEAR WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION when he had a $15 MILLION FIGHT AGAINST OSCAR waiting for him next,

but it's totally legit for Tony to turn down a fight against Williams, for far more money than he's ever made in his career, in order to fight a "tune up" for WAY LESS MONEY against a NO-NAME CHUMP when he has a fight AGAINST COTTO FOR NOT MUCH MORE MONEY THAN HE'D GET VS. WILLIAMS waiting for him next??

Could a Margarito fan please make these two things consistent for me?

your way off the mark dude the $8m offer was made before floyd fought zab after he was brutalized by baldomir. , A CARRER HIGH PURSE AT THAT TIME. if floyd is so confident he should have wasted no time in taking "an easy $8m" against tony then fighting baldomir for the encore in an even bigger unification fight.

[DaxxKahn]

come on guy's, its bob arum who matchmakes for both cotto and tony, you seriously dont think bob will let tony fight williams before his summer showdown with his 2 champions, its not the fighter who you blame its his managment. i dont agree with this though because id fancy tony to ko williams very easily.

CC#1 on that.....Now thats a man who knows how boxing works!......The only one that matters in all of this is Arum....It doesn't matter what Margarito wants or Cotto or Williams and his people.....Bob will make sure HIS big money is made before anyone elses

[albsur2006]

....I wouldn't either, he figures he could make more fighting the winner of De la Hoya-Mayweather Jr......I mean don't you see the $$$$ following that big fight

Margarito COULD fight Paul Williams a VERY dangerous and powerful fighter

OR

Margarito could fight a safer Luis Collazo or Joel Julio

IMO, Tony is going about this all wrong.

Tony isn't being realistic about the Cotto-Margarito fight. How much money do you think Tony is gonna make for the Cotto fight Now that he will have to drop his belt, Cotto will be the champion, Cotto is the draw, Cotto will get the most money. By the way, Cotto only made a million for the Quintana fight. That was his first million dollar fight. It's not like the fighters have been making a ton of money. Tony hasn't even sniffed a million dollar payday in his career and Arum ain't gonna just give him three million when Tony's been making less than half a million for fights. Both fighter's are new to PPV also. It's not like just because Cotto and Margarito are fighting each other the pot for the fighters jumps to ten million. Margarito is still largely unknown and that's his fault because he's been so inactive.

IMO, Tony shouldn't listen to Arum. He needs to remember that Arum is hoping that Cotto becomes the next Felix Trinidad. If Tony doesn't have a belt and Cotto is the draw, what room does Tony have to negotiate Tony should fight Williams on HBO before the Cotto fight to build his reputation up with the public, take the million bucks for the fight, and if he wins then he's got a huge quality win on a HBO broadcast and he's still champion. That automatically makes the Cotto fight a lot bigger than it would be because the general public would have just seen both fighters defend their belts on the same card, Margarito enhances his status because he just beat a guy most perceive to be the future of the division and the fight would be champion versus champion. That means that Margarito and Cotto would probably do a 50-50 split on a much bigger pot.

BTW, if Floyd beats ODLH, he's got much bigger fights than Tony even if Tony beats Cotto, he's got Mosley and Hatton just waiting around to make a megafight. If Oscar beats Floyd, he can take on Winky in a megafight, fight Mosley a third time, or try again to get a Trinidad rematch. Tony should get the money while it's right in front of him.

Damn I was right on the money with this one. Rito should have taken the Williams fight before agreeing to fight Cotto. Now that guy is screwed. He thought he was gonna make big money for a Cotto fight and he was WRONG!!! Arum basically screwed him over. Tony has to realize that you have to build up your paychecks, all the big players in boxing didn't just jump from 500K to 8Million in one fight, it takes years to do that. He had a million plus in front of him, but Arum blew him smoke and mirrors, so he agreed to the Cotto fight, but when the negotiations came around, guess what Arum was offering for the Cotto fight, a million plus. Arum planned this shit out, he knew if Tony fought Williams and lost, the Cotto fight was off, and if Tony fought Williams and won, Tony would have a belt and would demand (and deserve) parity and since Cotto was already making 3 million a fight, there might not have been enough money there to give Tony 3 Million and Cotto 3 Million and still make his huge profits. Tony fighting Williams was a lose-lose situation for Arum and Tony's paying for it.