About the ducking issue, I meant the other way around, I never heard anyone saying Margarito ducking PBF, it's been the other way around most of the time. Pac's starting to worry me though. Things seems to not right between him and Roach, and of course it's not a good idea for them to part ways when it is under Freddie that he became a mean fighting machine. So if your lucky, you might just get you revenge. I was thinking of changing my name to 'Pac-fan on hold' - on hold until Pac has his problems settled - or else it could be the beginning of his downfall.