Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote Originally Posted by ross
It sounds cheesy but Mike "was" the epitome of a fighter.

He wanted to prove himself and had such a high self belief in his ability he had no problem running through all challengers wiping out a division.

No one else has done so since.

Even after Douglas he had no problems getting in with the divisions new threat Rudduck.

People want to see Mike again or a new Mike but its not just Mike or his exciting style they miss, its the fact that he fought often and everyone, all title holders and all challengers, who does that now, the division is boring because people are so afraid to have a loss on their record but Briggs, Maskaev and Klitschko are proof that there is life in a career after a loss.

Who cares if someone is undefeated as long as good entertaining fights are made
Rudduck was a SLUGGER and not a BOXER

Now I know Foreman was a slugger but in actuality he was THE SLUGGER and if anyone EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING wanted to stand toe to toe with him they were dead in the water!!!

Foreman ducked one guy and really can't shame him for that because that guy was Earnie "The Acorn" Shavers and he mainly dodged him in his comeback.

Mike Tyson was good he just wasn't as good as George old or not
Your wrong! Ruddock wasn't just a SLUGGER he was a decent boxer with a good jab, look at his early fights setting up that hybrid left-hook-uppercut with a real good jab, he was boxing Bone crusher Smith's ears off, I'm not saying he was Willie Pep or Ray Robinson, but he wasn't some wild swinging slugger. His brutal K.O. of Michael Dokes was scary, Dokes looked like he was dead, slumped against the ropes motionless. Ruddock later in his career tried to depend on his power, rather than set the pace with his jab and counter punch. As for Foreman ducking Shavers in his comeback, you better get your facts straight, Shavers retired after 1983, Foreman didn't comeback until 1987, Shavers made a brief comeback in 1995( I guess he saw all the sucess and money Foreman was having and decided to give it a try) He won a decision over a nobody then got sparked in the 1st rd by Brian Yates who was knocked out by just about everyone he fought. So that pretty much tells you how a Foreman -Shavers fight would have ended. Foreman would have destroyed Shavers in there primes. I gotta school you too Lyle? And yes I think Tyson ducked Foreman in the early ninties, they were even selling TYSON VS FORMAN T-shirts on Broad an Snyder in South Philly the summer of 1990, there was way too much money to be made by them fighting each other for it not to come off,....so Tyson had to be SCARED, it just don't make any sense for the fight not to happen.