Hatton Hating!!!

[Entragian]

The commentators on HBO said Hatton was not a heavy favorite for that fight. Was that not the case?

[killersheep]

The commentators on HBO said Hatton was not a heavy favorite for that fight. Was that not the case?

Hatton was in fact a HEAVY favorite

Averages were
Hatton 1/8
Urango 6/1

[sarahjane]

Look i loved hatton and i'm from the UK but i have the mentality to realise that in the fights since kostya he hasnt done anything that impressive? and last night was no exception, how someone can say what he did last night was amazing is beyond me. i was bored watching that, and watching him hold for 60% of the fight is not my idea of a good fight. they seem to find the crappiest title holders ever for hatton to fight.

Like Carlos Moussa.. in all fairness.. what decent fighter couldnt beat that guy? NOT impressive. to prove himself in my eyes he needs to fight one of the big boys like mayweather or de la hoya.. but as we know its never gonna happen.. even the hatton camp know he couldnt beat someone like that.

I feel bad not sticking by one of the only high profiled fighters we have over here but at the end of the day, if its crap its crap.. im not gonna just say how amazing he is cause he's english.

Vivian harris couldn't and we was pretty highly respected...

Are you serious? are you trying to argue the fact that moussa is a pile of crap? vivian was having a bad day... moussa has the WORST style i've ever seen in my life.

[Preme]

Look i loved hatton and i'm from the UK but i have the mentality to realise that in the fights since kostya he hasnt done anything that impressive? and last night was no exception, how someone can say what he did last night was amazing is beyond me. i was bored watching that, and watching him hold for 60% of the fight is not my idea of a good fight. they seem to find the crappiest title holders ever for hatton to fight.

Like Carlos Moussa.. in all fairness.. what decent fighter couldnt beat that guy? NOT impressive. to prove himself in my eyes he needs to fight one of the big boys like mayweather or de la hoya.. but as we know its never gonna happen.. even the hatton camp know he couldnt beat someone like that.

I feel bad not sticking by one of the only high profiled fighters we have over here but at the end of the day, if its crap its crap.. im not gonna just say how amazing he is cause he's english.

Vivian harris couldn't and we was pretty highly respected...

Are you serious? are you trying to argue the fact that moussa is a pile of crap? vivian was having a bad day... moussa has the WORST style i've ever seen in my life.

am i serious about what? the fact hariss coudn't beat him? well of cims erious about it, moussa spanked vivan... you think harris lost 'coz of a bad day? if that was the case surly he would of chased a rematch and whooped maussa asap?

I think your the one whos arguing that maussa is a pile of crap... piles of crap don't beat respect world champions like he did.

You saying harris lost because of maussas bad style? or just pointing out he style is shit? i agree it aint exactly good, but if (and not saying you are) using his style as a reason harris lost, well hatton had no problem beating him with that style...

[Saddo]

Back to the topic...

i tend not to pay any attention to it because all said and done Ricky beat a World Champion and Urango didnt get a world championship belt out of a lucky bag he needed to be able to fight and Ricky only lost a couple of rounds in beating him

so take the posts with a pinch of salt mate... they will always be here its just all part and parcel of a forum

[Majesty]

Look i loved hatton and i'm from the UK but i have the mentality to realise that in the fights since kostya he hasnt done anything that impressive? and last night was no exception, how someone can say what he did last night was amazing is beyond me. i was bored watching that, and watching him hold for 60% of the fight is not my idea of a good fight. they seem to find the crappiest title holders ever for hatton to fight.

Like Carlos Moussa.. in all fairness.. what decent fighter couldnt beat that guy? NOT impressive. to prove himself in my eyes he needs to fight one of the big boys like mayweather or de la hoya.. but as we know its never gonna happen.. even the hatton camp know he couldnt beat someone like that.

I feel bad not sticking by one of the only high profiled fighters we have over here but at the end of the day, if its crap its crap.. im not gonna just say how amazing he is cause he's english.

Vivian harris couldn't and we was pretty highly respected...

Are you serious? are you trying to argue the fact that moussa is a pile of crap? vivian was having a bad day... moussa has the WORST style i've ever seen in my life.

am i serious about what? the fact hariss coudn't beat him? well of cims erious about it, moussa spanked vivan... you think harris lost 'coz of a bad day? if that was the case surly he would of chased a rematch and whooped maussa asap?

I think your the one whos arguing that maussa is a pile of crap... piles of crap don't beat respect world champions like he did.

You saying harris lost because of maussas bad style? or just pointing out he style is shit? i agree it aint exactly good, but if (and not saying you are) using his style as a reason harris lost, well hatton had no problem beating him with that style...

Harris DID try to get a rematch.

[ono]

CC back Bilbo.

The atmosphere does count for a lot. It can be the difference between a good fight and a great fight. In the UK the fans get behind their fighter. Their support for their fighter is unconditional.

In the U.S. the crowd don't seem to stay loyal to any one particular fighter (maybe Gatti, but he's canadian). You hear cheers everytime either fighter puts together a decent combo. I regulalrly see comments such as ' i started off cheering for fighter A but as the fight wore on i edged more towards fighter B'

So because there is no house fighter to begin with, the atmosphere seems to suffer. Casual Americans expect entertainment and don't seem to make any noise til something catches their eye, where as british fans create the same buzz and atmosphere that you would associate with football matches.
I imagine its so much easier to put on an exciting performance with all that energy around

You are absolutely right, for me personally, I think it's more important to support great matches.
If a fighter does well, I give them their due credit. I try not to take sides, even though I am human
and can not help it. I also think that ticket prices in America have gotten out of control.

Yeh in the UK fans tend to be very loyal and that goes with every sport. So much hope and sometimes hype is built around sport in our country and fans tend to jump on a bandwagon, but will pretty much stay on that bandwagon no matter what.

I think from a purely neutral point of view it is also important to support great matches because entertainment is the number 1 reason most fans watch boxing. And i am not different. I found myself leaning towards Castillo and Corrales in certain points of their 2 fights. With hatton its a different story because i think a lot of Brits are proud of what he is achieveing so we'l tend to stick by him no matter what.

How much are ticket prices in America for the big fights. Over here they are very very expensive. I paid what would work out at roughly $200 for pretty shit seats at the hatton - Maussa fight. Same goes for most sports. Prices are un realistic to what the average working class fan can afford.

Good posts mate CC

[killersheep]

CC back Bilbo.

The atmosphere does count for a lot. It can be the difference between a good fight and a great fight. In the UK the fans get behind their fighter. Their support for their fighter is unconditional.

In the U.S. the crowd don't seem to stay loyal to any one particular fighter (maybe Gatti, but he's canadian). You hear cheers everytime either fighter puts together a decent combo. I regulalrly see comments such as ' i started off cheering for fighter A but as the fight wore on i edged more towards fighter B'

So because there is no house fighter to begin with, the atmosphere seems to suffer. Casual Americans expect entertainment and don't seem to make any noise til something catches their eye, where as british fans create the same buzz and atmosphere that you would associate with football matches.
I imagine its so much easier to put on an exciting performance with all that energy around

You are absolutely right, for me personally, I think it's more important to support great matches.
If a fighter does well, I give them their due credit. I try not to take sides, even though I am human
and can not help it. I also think that ticket prices in America have gotten out of control.

Yeh in the UK fans tend to be very loyal and that goes with every sport. So much hope and sometimes hype is built around sport in our country and fans tend to jump on a bandwagon, but will pretty much stay on that bandwagon no matter what.

I think from a purely neutral point of view it is also important to support great matches because entertainment is the number 1 reason most fans watch boxing. And i am not different. I found myself leaning towards Castillo and Corrales in certain points of their 2 fights. With hatton its a different story because i think a lot of Brits are proud of what he is achieveing so we'l tend to stick by him no matter what.

How much are ticket prices in America for the big fights. Over here they are very very expensive. I paid what would work out at roughly $200 for pretty shit seats at the hatton - Maussa fight. Same goes for most sports. Prices are un realistic to what the average working class fan can afford.

Good posts mate CC

Well the next fight here near where I live is Rocky Juarez those tickets are only $100 but there are only 2 fights, and I'm not a big Juarez fan.

For a regular big name fight night, if you want a seat where you can SEE the ring it's about the same $200, for good seats they go from $300 - $1500

I feel ya, I got a mad blue collar man, if they would just drop the ticket prices a bit they could sell out places out here and get a lot more fans into it. MMA is getting big out here and tickets are a lot cheaper.

[Violent Demise]

Back to the topic...

i tend not to pay any attention to it because all said and done Ricky beat a World Champion and Urango didnt get a world championship belt out of a lucky bag he needed to be able to fight and Ricky only lost a couple of rounds in beating him

so take the posts with a pinch of salt mate... they will always be here its just all part and parcel of a forum

You right. Urango got his belt thanks to gift-giving judges. Not only that but title was vacant. Urango was the definition of a paper champion. He never beat the champion in the ring. He "supposedly" beat a fighter who was not even worthy of a title shot

[Kel]

Back to the topic...

i tend not to pay any attention to it because all said and done Ricky beat a World Champion and Urango didnt get a world championship belt out of a lucky bag he needed to be able to fight and Ricky only lost a couple of rounds in beating him

so take the posts with a pinch of salt mate... they will always be here its just all part and parcel of a forum

You right. Urango got his belt thanks to gift-giving judges. Not only that but title was vacant. Urango was the definition of a paper champion. He never beat the champion in the ring. He "supposedly" beat a fighter who was not even worthy of a title shot

Anyone hear a really wet sounding fart?

[Saddo]

Back to the topic...

i tend not to pay any attention to it because all said and done Ricky beat a World Champion and Urango didnt get a world championship belt out of a lucky bag he needed to be able to fight and Ricky only lost a couple of rounds in beating him

so take the posts with a pinch of salt mate... they will always be here its just all part and parcel of a forum

You right. Urango got his belt thanks to gift-giving judges. Not only that but title was vacant. Urango was the definition of a paper champion. He never beat the champion in the ring. He "supposedly" beat a fighter who was not even worthy of a title shot

who you on about Urango or Ngoudjo

[Greig]

I just think that people should really reserve judgement until after the Castillo fight. An earlier post on this thread said that Hatton came to the US for 2 things: fights and money. So far one has been there without the other.


IMO Maussa, Collazo and Urango were not top level fighters. Maussa got lucky against a poorly conditioned Harris. Collazo was a belt holder in name only and I'm confident Mosley will make a mess of him next month (although I could well be wrong there). Urango had a close fight with a guy called Ben Rabah... Hardly a trio of world beaters for Hatton since the Tszyu fight.

This opposition had been disappointing to me, and since Mayweather and Cotto have both gone north, Castillo and Corrales are the only marquee options out there.


Credit to Ricky - he's fighting Castillo in June. Personally, I think he'll be up for that fight like you would not believe. I think he'll beat Castillo by stopppage.


But until then, lets give him the benefit of the doubt. These guys lately have been awkward and stylistically challenging and he hasn't looked great. BUT, he's due to fight a legend in June so until he does lets lay off.

[Kel]

I just think that people should really reserve judgement until after the Castillo fight. An earlier post on this thread said that Hatton came to the US for 2 things: fights and money. So far one has been there without the other.


IMO Maussa, Collazo and Urango were not top level fighters. Maussa got lucky against a poorly conditioned Harris. Collazo was a belt holder in name only and I'm confident Mosley will make a mess of him next month (although I could well be wrong there). Urango had a close fight with a guy called Ben Rabah... Hardly a trio of world beaters for Hatton since the Tszyu fight.

This opposition had been disappointing to me, and since Mayweather and Cotto have both gone north, Castillo and Corrales are the only marquee options out there.


Credit to Ricky - he's fighting Castillo in June. Personally, I think he'll be up for that fight like you would not believe. I think he'll beat Castillo by stopppage.


But until then, lets give him the benefit of the doubt. These guys lately have been awkward and stylistically challenging and he hasn't looked great. BUT, he's due to fight a legend in June so until he does lets lay off.

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