Quote Originally Posted by baller
When I say at the top I mean somewhere in the top 5.
Okay. Not doubting Joe's skills, but the general public would like to see him beat a couple of more "recognized" names before that happens. I think his record says alot, but everyone don't share the same thoughts. What hurts his p4p rankings, IMO, is that there haven't been any big stars at 168. And the comp. level isn't as good as other weight classes. If it was, he would be top five for sure, probably top 3, if he was undefeated or not. Close wins against guys who aren't considered that good, doesn't earn alot of points with people. I've been watching Joe for about 5-6 years now, and I'm impressed. Like I stated before, if he unifies all the belts at 168, I can't see how he couldn't be topfive.
Quote Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Quote Originally Posted by Pantera
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005364

Look at this record! He has beaten many top quality fighters and never had a real close fight. He did have one SD, but it looks like one of the judges was blind! His last 16 opponents records were a combined 429-30-2 (a 93% winning percentage) and he KO's half of them.

Who's gonna beat him? Should he be on top of the p4p list?
two words, Robin Reid.
See, thats what I mean.