Peter is REALLY pissed-off!!!

[Wacko3205]

I think Wlad took the first Peter fight because he and Manny knew that Sam had a lack of experience. I think that Wlad plans to steer clear of Peter from here on and it was in his interests all along to keep the WBC title out of Peter's hands.

Maybe. Honestly though...I think that the main reason they took the Peter fight was due to the fact that a win would reestablish Wladimir's status in the division. It was an ugly fight & he looked quite unsure of himself in the first 5 rounds...but...he pulled it out & both fighters made a statement. For Wlad it was that he could take a punch, for Peter...he went in with the best heavy out there at the time & stood toe to toe with limited skills.

I have a feeling that quite a few people will be steering clear of Peter after the Toney win. That was a hell of a performance...especially as gifted & diverse as Toney is or was in his game & as limited as Peter is or was.

I want Peter to get on with a really good trainer...as raw as he is...a decent trainer could make all the difference in the world.

Example: Wlad was and has been calling out Oleg. He even said that if the WBC let him fight Oleg, that he would fight the winner of Peter-Toney 2, which MOST people believed (including Wlad's people) that Toney would win This would have lined up Oleg and then James Toney next for Wlad. These would be good match ups for him, in my opinion since neither has both a strong chin along with punching power. Sam Peter goes on to beat Toney in the rematch by *gasp* outboxing him. This was a surprise for Manny and Wlad, who surely will want no part of a man that knocked him down 3 times and took all his shots PLUS excessive holding and leaning for 11.5 rounds (12 was when Peter finally Judah shuffled)

I'm just not sure. Wlad's tasted his power...maybe he'll have a bit of confidence going into a rematch...there again...a man drops me that many times...I sure as shit aint gonna give him another opportunity...not unless I just had to.

An experienced Sam Peter with improved boxing skills, most importantly finishing skills causes Wlad a big problem with a fair ref. Experienced also means no rabbit punching either. Sam Peter as WBC champ by beating James Toney twice and Oleg Maskaev would be an almost complete pro boxer. One that Wlad wouldn't call out for unification like he did for Oleg. So now that Little Klit was denied, he and Big bro find a way to keep that belt out of Peter's hands. Hence Vitali's comeback.

Agreed 100%.

I am all for seeing the last legitimate heavyweight champion return, but not like this.

Again...agreed 100%. I don't want Peter to get bumped for Vitali's comeback...but how insane would it be if Vitali cameback, beat Maskaev, & then got his ass handed to him by a totally motivated & focused Samuel Peter?

This is my speculation on the reasoning for this. I am no Sam peter fan, but why step over him now? Why didn't Vitali pull him mandatory card right after Oleg dismantled Rahman? This is to stop Peter from getting the WBC belt and I won't be surprised if Maskaev takes a dive.

Honestly...I'm a fan of both Sam Peter & Vitali. I've always liked Vitali & I think him coming back into the game is a good thing...but I'd much rather him fight Valuev. That would be the right fight to make...or toss him in with Ruiz for a tune up. Christ almighty...I'd break out the wallet & empty it just to see him hammer Ruiz into silly putty.

Also...welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome Wagon

Good post. Keep it up. This is a good place to be...keep an open mind & pump out good posts like this & you should get on fine. Cheers babe.