bilbo, I would be despondent as trainer as well if my fighter continued to comes into big fights a fat a**. You can sometimes blame your trainer for not being prepared...but that's not the case with Toney. As far as what he can do for Oscar...in all honesty...Oscar has been in this business for long enough, has been involved in many big fights, and is smart enough...not to need to depend heavily on his trainer. The biggest thing for Roach is to get Oscar into really great shape. Oscar needs to be really fit for this match. But i agree....most likely Floyd will dance his way to a UD. But if Floyd even loses concentration for a bit...Oscar could rock his world. Oscar is not Gatti, Baldomir, Mitchell or even Judah. Even at this stage of his career, he is a skilled enough fighter to punish Floyd badly if Floyd makes any mistakes.