i can see your point of view p4pking. but at the same time i just see mayweather's route to his stature right now. he took an easy title at 140 from gatti and managed to avoid fighting either cotto or hatton for their titles at 140 istead. and then moved up to 147 and beat judah who looked shit in his last fight against baldomir and shouldnt even have had a title. then he faught baldomir who everyone knew he would beat to win yet another title. i just think he has taken a very easy route to gain his legacy so far. and he has managed one way or another to avoid every potential dangeros fighter along the way. and this doesnt seem the way of a true great to me.