Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB
By themselfs? The Ruskys would of definetly beaten them... too much man power... the yanks could of... considering they'd our country to have a 'base' near europe though.

We could of beat them... but we weren't prepared for war, Russia had quabillions of men and the USA had years to prepare and size.

We weren't that much smaller than Germany... but small enough that we couldn't do what the ruskys did
AdamGB the rusky's lost 25 million people, no other country could have taken those kind of casualties and kept fighting. This is after

1. The Germans had won wars in Poland and France. Losing around 300,000 men (round off) in each war.
2. Fighting the British and USA in Northern Africa while taking many casualties (353,000 men)
3. Much of the Luftwaffle was held down in Western Europe due to raids by the USA and Great Britian
4. Fighting the Allies in Western Europe after the Normandy invasions
5. Fighting the Allies in Italy after the Mossalini debacle
6. Having thier cities and civilian population (From where you recruit new soldiers) ruined. Even though Albert Speel kept production going it would have been trippled if there was no bombing.
7. Having alot of their SS members in Occupied country's facing uprisings and resistance.

I can go on forever, the fact is after all these distractions they still were able to kill 25 million Soviets. 1 on 1 they would have lost more than 25 million people, much more. The Germans would have destroyed that country. It's no way in hell the Soviets could beat the Germans.

As for the USA and Britian, The USA had their hands full with the Germans on the Western Front after their army was depleated, having no fuel and very little ammunition and the majority of their forces in the east they were still able to surround the allies and came close to making them surrender. If not for the West total superioty in the air they would have lost. As for Great Britian it would not be close, when the Germans were in their prime they were creaming Great Britian. They beat them in France, Norway, Greece, the Atlantic and had a ruthless air raid in early 1940 (Battle of Britian). Britian was ready for war they just faced a bigger army that was superior. With the casualty list there is no way that anyone of these country's could have beaten Germany. The Russians were very poor soldiers, it's just they had to many people. The war was won on Russian man power and Western production and air power.