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he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Be that as it may, at leats Oscar said "what the F***" and gave it a shot vs Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins....F****** middleweight Bernard Hopkins at their peak!!!!

Floyd has NEVER come close to taking those risks!

Oscar did beat Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, and Quartey at their best!
No offense, Lyle. But you can't SERIOUSLY believe Oscar beat Vargas and Campas at their best. Fact is they were both damaged goods by the time they fought Oscar. DLH had ample opportunity to face either of these guys, particularly Vargas, before they got destroyed by Tito. Vargas would've fought Oscar for FREE. But the Golden Boy wisely chose to wait until after Fernando got "ferociously" KO'd by Trinidad. Come to think of it..... the same can be said about Mayorga.
Hmmm.....
I think the same can be said for vargas..
Im not entirely sure about campas..He was undefeated when he fought tito.. Something crazy like 58 -0 50 something ko's.. I dont feel the tito fight damaged yuri like the tito fight damaged vargas..
They was two different fights .. And plus vargas had fought better competition leading up to tito then yuri boy had.. Just yuri had fought many more.. Mostly in mexico..
Depends how you weight it up i guess...
Although I sort of agree... did you see the Tito KO of Campas? I think the ref could've stepped in there a couple of punches sooner. That last punch to the head almost sent Campas' head sailing into the seats.

Campas had a long, illustrious career; and I thoroughly enjoyed watching his fights. But the Campas that Oscar fought was "over-the-hill", while Tito caught him as an undefeated, rising star.

And that's what some of Tito's and Oscar's common opponents had in common. Tito caught them undefeated, near or at their peak, and KO'd them impressively. Oscar got them a few years later, either damaged or on the downhill side of their careers.
I have no trouble agreeing..I still give oscar credit for great competition..
But he did get a couple of tito's hand me downs..
oba carr.. Yuri boy campas.. Vargas..mayorga..Macho Camacho..( Hate caMAcho..!)
But it was also to do with the fact that these fighters were still part of the good competition when oscar arrived at welterweight because tito fought the best and oscar arrived a little late to claim the same..But they were still very good comp..
Peace