
Originally Posted by
SEANIE
Title of thread: ODLH has never beaten a great boxer at their peak.
Well it all depends on what 'YOU' consider great......
Heres how I see it.....
Barry McGuigan is a Hall of Famer. (which I don't agree with)
Heres how he stands as a fighter.
Record: (32-3)
He beat Pedroza for his WBA title defended it twice then lost it, and that's it.
So if what Barry did landed in the Hall of Fame which equals greatness the heres how I see it for ODLH.
John John Molina
Record: (52-7)
He beat LaPorte for the vcant WBO belt. Then beat Lopez for his IBF belt, he defended that belt once then lost the re-match to Lopez. He won the vacant IBF belt and defended that belt 7 times. He then moved up in weight fought ODLH and lost. (And it's not like Molina grew old in 3 months) Molina then WAAYYY past his best days beat Tackie.
Genaro Hernandez
(38-2-1)
He was undefeated (32-0) when they met and Genaro was still in his best days.
He beat Landonas for the vacant WBA belt and defended it 8 times. He moved up in weight and lost to ODLH. (Again it's not Hrndz. grew old in 6 months) Hrndz. then wen't on to Azumah for his WBC belt and won he defended that belt 3 times before loosing.
'Santa Tokyo' Miguel Angel Gonzalez
(51-5-1)
He was undefeated (41-0) when they met and Miguel was still in his best days.
He beat Rocha for the vacant WBC belt and defended it 10 times. He then moved up in weight and lost to ODLH.
Pernell Whitaker
(40-4-1)
Crap! Do I really have to list all of his accomplishment?
Inducted to the IBHofF this year.....
Ike Quartey
(37-4-1)
He was undefeated (34-0) when they met and Ike was still in his best days.
He beat Espana for his WBA belt he then defended that belt 7 times. He then fought ODLH and lost.
So you see measuring ODLH opponents by the IBHofF (which equal grateness) standards and the 'in their peak' standard that you've set here ODLH has fought and beaten those kind of fighters...... You just gotta look closely.... And the same way hes beaten them they have beaten him; (In paper) Tito, SSM, B-Hop.

Originally Posted by
SEANIE
he is not an all time great and is vastly overated.
See above and this isn't even mentioning his stats (titles, defenses etc. etc.)

Originally Posted by
SEANIE
In his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.
Fwock!

I should have read your post completely. Instead of typing all that up to realise this is coming from a Hatton fan. Now I'm confused.
The title on your thread talks about ODLH not beting fighters in their peak as you say.
You then go on to say "In his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending"
Curious to know which 'GREAT' fighter has Hatton beat in their peak?
Kostya Tszyu
(31-2)
P4P Light Welter King. Defende his titles 7 times.
and.......

ummmmm!!! and ummmmmm

..... thats it.
I'm one of the few who thinks that Tszyu was NOT past his best days. Hatton was the better fighter that night. But to mouth of ODLH and then praise Hatton ius absurd and don't make no sense....
Anything else you'd like to discuss?

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