HATTON gives up IBF title

[Purist]

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...AgllDyRvu.html

So wTF did he fight uRANGO FOR?   

get another belt and an easy win against Urango in which he was supposed to look spectacular.  Both Castillo and Hatton were supposed to look spectacular. 

They both didn't though, but Castillo stayed true to his nature and it was an exciting fight!!

[sanj16]

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...AgllDyRvu.html

So wTF did he fight uRANGO FOR?

He's starting to come across a bit slimy imo. He wants the title obviously as it gives him more bartering power for getting more money in his next fights but he doesn't value or have any intention of defending them.

Basically he's just using and exploiting the governing bodies. Thats the second time he's fucked the IBF over, hopefully they won't allow him to fight for another version of their title.

Glad someone is Its these alphabet titles that are ruining boxing. How can they possibly not sanction him fighting Castillo, but say that N'Dou is the more justified contender. Justified in terms of paying their fee's and not the best fight.

[Preme]

My only problem with this is a week ago hatton said he wanted to keep the title and defend it, so Rabah-N'Dou became an eliminator match rather then the title fight it would be had hatton and his camp not fucked the IBF around (there are more people to blame than hatton, im sure his team were telling him to say he will defend it so they would have more time to try and keep the title and fight castillo...)

Lets not get to silly now about why hatton fought urango for the 'worthless' IBF belt and not castillo right away...

In this corner u got a brit whos only visit to the states was fight he just won by the skin of his teeth agasint a fairly unknown and lowly thought of 'paper champion' - in the other corner we have a guy who has been failing to make weight, inactive in nearly a year. HBO knew if they could hand pick their apponenets for them to look good agasint it would lead to a super fight in a proper venue in vegas, not that dump they fought in last. I don't think the IBf belt was that big of a factor in it, but a title on the line always makes for a slightly more interesting night and Urango was a name that people 'knew'

[boozeboxer]

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...AgllDyRvu.html

So wTF did he fight uRANGO FOR?

He's starting to come across a bit slimy imo. He wants the title obviously as it gives him more bartering power for getting more money in his next fights but he doesn't value or have any intention of defending them.

Basically he's just using and exploiting the governing bodies. Thats the second time he's fucked the IBF over, hopefully they won't allow him to fight for another version of their title.

Glad someone is Its these alphabet titles that are ruining boxing. How can they possibly not sanction him fighting Castillo, but say that N'Dou is the more justified contender. Justified in terms of paying their fee's and not the best fight.

I completley agree. Look at what the Ring has everyone ranked. In all fairness the IBF knew that the last fight(s) were a lead up to the June showdown. Ricky could spend all his day (esp. with 4 belts out there) fighting unworthy opponents that wouldnt be that great of bouts or he can do what he knows is the right thing for boxing.............GREAT BOUTS!

[BoxingGorilla]

I'd rather see Hatton fight someone he can dominate with punches. If he spends four or five rounds bullshittin' he can retire for all I care.

Hopefully for his countrymen he will lambaste Castillo and give them something to be proud of. If not then they should hang their heads in shame or focus on Calzaghe.

[Kev]

I'd rather see Hatton fight someone he can dominate with punches. If he spends four or five rounds bullshittin' he can retire for all I care.

Hopefully for his countrymen he will lambaste Castillo and give them something to be proud of. If not then they should hang their heads in shame or focus on Calzaghe.

I'm a Brit and not really a Hatton fan. Ugly brawling style, trying to cash in on his Tyszu victory by handpicking paper chumps to keep him rated in the top 10 p4p and get him a big payday.

It makes sense for him now to keep postponing the big fights as he will get found out when he fights anybody decent.

I've never understood this potential 'mouthwatering' clash with Castillo either, to me Castillo isn't an elite fighter either. He's another whose reputation has been enhanced beyond his stature.

A 'great' fighter doesn't go life and death with Diego Coralles and struggle against Stevie Johnstone.

Castillo is very good don't get me wrong, but he's not elite level, he's moving up in weight, and he's old. He's also only looked impressive in 1 of his last 4 outings and that against a Corrales who we know would get completely schooled by the likes of Mayweather (already happened), Mosely, Cotto, Judah etc.

Thats why Team Hatton are so desperate to land the Castillo fight, a big name fighter, but the easiest out of all the top fighters out there to beat.

I really don't rate Hatton that highly at all, honestly I think Paulie Malignaggi would beat him and he'd struggle against Witter as well.

Move up to 147 and he's getting sparked out by any of the top 5 or 6 guys.

[SweetPea]

People complain about the belts being worthless and that very well may be the case, but if fighters actually respected them a bit more then maybe they would be worth more.

Can you elaborate on this a little bit? What do the fighters need to do to show more "respect" to the belts?

[Fenster]

Whenever you read any of bilbo's posts you have to take into account he's a 100% genuine MENTAL.

I'd rather see Hatton fight someone he can dominate with punches. If he spends four or five rounds bullshittin' he can retire for all I care.

Hopefully for his countrymen he will lambaste Castillo and give them something to be proud of. If not then they should hang their heads in shame or focus on Calzaghe.

I'm a Brit and not really a Hatton fan. Ugly brawling style, trying to cash in on his Tyszu victory by handpicking paper chumps to keep him rated in the top 10 p4p and get him a big payday.

It makes sense for him now to keep postponing the big fights as he will get found out when he fights anybody decent.

I've never understood this potential 'mouthwatering' clash with Castillo either, to me Castillo isn't an elite fighter either. He's another whose reputation has been enhanced beyond his stature.

A 'great' fighter doesn't go life and death with Diego Coralles and struggle against Stevie Johnstone.

Castillo is very good don't get me wrong, but he's not elite level, he's moving up in weight, and he's old. He's also only looked impressive in 1 of his last 4 outings and that against a Corrales who we know would get completely schooled by the likes of Mayweather (already happened), Mosely, Cotto, Judah etc.

Thats why Team Hatton are so desperate to land the Castillo fight, a big name fighter, but the easiest out of all the top fighters out there to beat.

I really don't rate Hatton that highly at all, honestly I think Paulie Malignaggi would beat him and he'd struggle against Witter as well.

Move up to 147 and he's getting sparked out by any of the top 5 or 6 guys.

ahahahaa

Even by your illustrious standards of nonsense this is good.

[Kev]

Whenever you read any of bilbo's posts you have to take into account he's a 100% genuine MENTAL.

I'd rather see Hatton fight someone he can dominate with punches. If he spends four or five rounds bullshittin' he can retire for all I care.

Hopefully for his countrymen he will lambaste Castillo and give them something to be proud of. If not then they should hang their heads in shame or focus on Calzaghe.

I'm a Brit and not really a Hatton fan. Ugly brawling style, trying to cash in on his Tyszu victory by handpicking paper chumps to keep him rated in the top 10 p4p and get him a big payday.

It makes sense for him now to keep postponing the big fights as he will get found out when he fights anybody decent.

I've never understood this potential 'mouthwatering' clash with Castillo either, to me Castillo isn't an elite fighter either. He's another whose reputation has been enhanced beyond his stature.

A 'great' fighter doesn't go life and death with Diego Coralles and struggle against Stevie Johnstone.

Castillo is very good don't get me wrong, but he's not elite level, he's moving up in weight, and he's old. He's also only looked impressive in 1 of his last 4 outings and that against a Corrales who we know would get completely schooled by the likes of Mayweather (already happened), Mosely, Cotto, Judah etc.

Thats why Team Hatton are so desperate to land the Castillo fight, a big name fighter, but the easiest out of all the top fighters out there to beat.

I really don't rate Hatton that highly at all, honestly I think Paulie Malignaggi would beat him and he'd struggle against Witter as well.

Move up to 147 and he's getting sparked out by any of the top 5 or 6 guys.

ahahahaa

Even by your illustrious standards of nonsense this is good.

lol glad you get the same amusement from my posts as I got from your photo

[Kev]

People complain about the belts being worthless and that very well may be the case, but if fighters actually respected them a bit more then maybe they would be worth more.

Can you elaborate on this a little bit? What do the fighters need to do to show more "respect" to the belts?

Well defending them would be a good place to start.

If the top fighters defended their belts and held onto them, then there would be no 'paper' champs and the belts would mean more than they do now.

I'm not against people ignoring the belts to go after the big fights, but Hatton just takes the piss. He's won 4 world title belts now and made a grand total of 0 defenses.

To use an analagy, imagine working for a top company and your boss retires and recommends you personally to take over from him. Then at the last minute someone from completely outside the company lands the job, accepts it but then decides not to turn up on the day he's supposed to start, thus leaving the company to scramble over who is going to replace him.

Now imagine that same guy applying for 4 top company jobs, each time ousting the guy who has been personally recommended for the job, and each time deciding not to take the job after all.

The company and the guy who was recommended would get pretty pissed off after a while.

[SweetPea]

Well defending them would be a good place to start.

If the top fighters defended their belts and held onto them, then there would be no 'paper' champs and the belts would mean more than they do now.

I'm not against people ignoring the belts to go after the big fights, but Hatton just takes the piss. He's won 4 world title belts now and made a grand total of 0 defenses.

This philosophy would be great if there were one belt in each weight class. But there isn't. There's 4. Beltholders don't get ranked by the other commissions. So theoretically, if the 4 belt holders always "respected" their belts and fought the #1 ranked contenders, then the beltholders would never face it each other.

Why should fighters honor their belts and fight the #1 ranked contenders, when those #1 contenders are rarely the best out there? Would Ricky hatton prove that he's a real champ by beating N'Dou? Does that prove more than beating Castillo?
Why should a fighter respect a belt, when the commission that owns the belt shows no respect to it at all?

[Kev]

Well defending them would be a good place to start.

If the top fighters defended their belts and held onto them, then there would be no 'paper' champs and the belts would mean more than they do now.

I'm not against people ignoring the belts to go after the big fights, but Hatton just takes the piss. He's won 4 world title belts now and made a grand total of 0 defenses.

This philosophy would be great if there were one belt in each weight class. But there isn't. There's 4. Beltholders don't get ranked by the other commissions. So theoretically, if the 4 belt holders always "respected" their belts and fought the #1 ranked contenders, then the beltholders would never face it each other.

Why should fighters honor their belts and fight the #1 ranked contenders, when those #1 contenders are rarely the best out there? Would Ricky hatton prove that he's a real champ by beating N'Dou? Does that prove more than beating Castillo?
Why should a fighter respect a belt, when the commission that owns the belt shows no respect to it at all?

Yeah I hear what your saying, and the governing bodies are equally to blame but the point is that you CAN hold a belt and fight other champions as well.

Not every fight has to be a mandatory, I think they only have to fight one mandatory a year so it's really no big deal.

He fought for the title against Urango, when Urango was supposed to fight the winner of N'Dou Rabbah. Urango got the Hatton fight on an exemption as the mandatory date was already overdue, so Ricky knew that should he win he had an immediate mandatory obligation.

He signed that fight against Urango KNOWING that.

Now he decides not to play fair with the IBF and drop the belt.

Thats just not fair to the IBF or to the N'Dou who is the mandatory for the title shot.

[El Gamo]

If Hatton signed the Urango fight knowing he would have to honour his mandatory,thats just ridiculous! Why not fight someone else? Why fight for the title? It is in situations like these that title loses its significance. I mean,oersinally speaking,I don't need a title to tell me JLC and Hatton are the 2 best fighters at 140!

[Kev]

If Hatton signed the Urango fight knowing he would have to honour his mandatory,thats just ridiculous! Why not fight someone else? Why fight for the title? It is in situations like these that title loses its significance. I mean,oersinally speaking,I don't need a title to tell me JLC and Hatton are the 2 best fighters at 140!

I'm actually not all that sold on Castillo at 140 lb. Struggling against a complete nobody last month doesn't inspire confidence.

You reckon he would beat Mallignaggi, Junior Witter or even Viv Harris? I'm not so sure......

[El Gamo]

Thats the thing though,JLC has always looked bad against tune ups,even in his last fihgt v Reyes,he looked poor. He really turns up against the bigger names: Lazcano,Johnston twice,Corrales,Mayweather,Diaz,Casamayor,those are some AWESOME names! I feel Hatton would be too much for him but I feel JLC would whoop Paulie(who's nowhere near as slick as Floyd or Joel) and grind down Witter and Harris.