Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Bilbo,you know I love you,but you're list sucks a** and balls at the same time!!

Rafa Marquez has beaten more RING top 10 fighters than anyone in that list for one weight class and Austin and Johnson were legends. He also beat the shat out of Silence Mabuza who is by far and away one of the top 3 guys in the division.He should DEFINITELY be in there.

Hopkins lost 2 of his last 3 regardless of what anyone thinks and the one he did win was against Tarver who was not in anyone's P4P lists nor anywhere near the top 10 so why should Hopkins be there?

Oscar...dear dear me...3 fights in 3 years or something,2 of which he lost(Sturm deserved the W) and the one he did win against a Mayorga who recieved a career ending beatin from Tito? No fwocking way Oscar is in there.

I am one of Cotto's biggest fans but he needs a few more wins before he can get into the top 10 especially at the cost of JMM,who has beaten as many good fighters as Cotto has and should have gotten the W v a Manny who annihilated Barerra.

I'm not sold on Mosley being there just yet,Castillo gets that final spot imo,look at whom he has fought!

Mick,I think you're list is almost identical to mine.
Well fair enough Gamo I surrender judgement to you on this.

I admit my knowledge of the really little guys is small. I struggle to really rate any man highly who I'd think any averaged sized man could take in a street fight.

I think Hopkins deserves his place in the mix though. He was p4p number 1 in the world before losing two razor close decisions to Taylor who is now a universally recognised p4p star.

And beating Tarver WAS a big deal, he went up two weight divisions and beat the undisputed man at light heavy regardless of whether people liked him or not.

De La Hoya beat Sturm whether you liked the decision or not and was fighting above his natural weight. Put De La Hoya in with any of the current 154 lb champs and I'm sure he beats them all. He's seen by virtually everyone as the man who has the best chance to dethrone the unquestioned p4p number 1 in the sport so surely deserves to be ranked in the top 10.

JMM lost to Chris John, who hardly anyone had ever heard of prior to that loss so if your are going to penalise Hopkins then..................