garymad.. Im both. I'm also just right below a world class polevaulter. I guess Im what you would call just an all round athlete.. who loves to work his ass off to be the best at everything I do.

Punchdrunk, I know where you are coming from. I see so many people lift who are lifting hours and hours and getting no benefits because they have no solid program, no idea what they are really doing. I was one of those guys, and was luckily led in the right direction from my dad, and other high callibar lifters. Just like in any sport, mimicking is a great thing. Weather you are a basketball player, a weight lifter, a boxer, whatever. Find a mentor, someone with great success, and pattern your training like his. Match his intensity, his drive, and just try to keep up. Then one day down the road you will realize that you have surpassed him in knowledge and you begin to train with things you have learned on the journey, making your own workout plans. And before you know it, there is someone watching you, wanting to train with you, to be the athlete that you are.