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Although N'dou is "champ" for all intents and purposes its BS. IMO it's vacant, I can't wait for D-hop smash N'dou. At least he's earned a title shot.
How has D hop earned one moreso than N'dou?? Rabah's better then anyone Hopkins has fought, and in all fairness he deserved to be the IBF champ because he beat Urango in an eliminator.. Not saying that was between two legitimate top ranked guys in the first place but still.. If Hatton's beating Urango was supposed to mean something then so should N'dou beating Rabah. Stopping him at that.
Well, seeing that they stripped Hatton for the belt before he even got it round his waist then all his last fight meant was a tune-up and a win against an undefeated fighter who was much stronger than him. N'dou beat a feather fisted, protected and coming off a loss, undeserving contender. D-hop has beaten decent opposition, is undefeated and is exciting to watch, there's no one in the division as good as he is who hasn't already had a chance.
You obviously haven't seen Urango vs. Ben Rabah. Neither are great, but Urango CLEARLY lost that fight. For you to call him a strong undefeated exciting fighter and praise Hatton for beating him, then say N'dou is a chump even though he stopped Ben Rabah, it just shows an incredible bias, really.
We actually had this fight televised in the UK on channel 5 fight of the week, and Rabah tasted a bit of Urango's power, then ran away. How can you win rounds on the back foot? You can't. 2 of the 4 criteria you score on is effective punching and aggression, the other 2 are generalship and defence, but everyone knows there's more emphasis on the first 2. On that basis Urango won more rounds.
YES! You see damnit?! I've been tellin people that Urango vs Rabah was a crap fight, with neither man doing much, but at least Urango came to fight and pressed the action, and thus deserved the decision. Thank you Yotisdan. Also WTF is up with the IBF, they are embarassing themselves more than the WBC has lately. As far as I'm concerned their little 140 lb IBF belt means very little now. I hate British Troll, but he should not be stripped for choosing to fight a great fighter like Castillo!
By that logic all you need to do is be the tougher man to win rounds. But then that would clear up a few things with your lust for El matador . Just move forward, never mind landing anything. Tell me, do you think Urango won 5 rounds against Hatton? Because by the way you two are making it sound, he was the agressor after round 7 right?? Even though he did absolutely nothing?
Those are two completely differnt fights. Ben Rabah ran like a coward, threw few punches, landed NOTHING meaningful and was in full on retreat mode the whole time. British Troll boxed, and did NOT run. He also clinched and hit on the break repeatadly. However, he did land a good number of shots, that had some zip on them and came to fight. He used lateral movement and outboxed Urango. He did not throw pitter patt garbage while running for his life like Ben Rabah did. He landed meaningful punches and outworked Urango. Neither fighter hurt Urango, but Hatton clearly won. Ben Rabah did jack shat.
Jesus.... If Urango was anywhere NEAR an elite fighter, he wouldn 't have had any problems with Rabah. Im not denying that Rabah fought moving backwards, but if he's landing punches and the other guy isn't, how the hell can you say he isn't winning the rounds?? Boxing off the back foot is a viable way to win fights, it's up to the other guy to cut off the ring and win exchanges, which in most instances is a simple solution to a guy who's constantly retreating. Urango didn't, plain and simple. He was outboxed. I agree, Rabah wasn't impressive, and he was hesistant to engage with urango inside.. But if Urango couldn't capitalize on the fact that his opponent was scared of his power and constantly moving backwards, he simply proves to be an extrmeley limited fighter. I guess it comes down to, you see tying up constantly and punching in clinches as more impressive or convincing then boxing off the back foot. I don't.