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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    The Ring magazine have got it pretty much right I think.

    http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

    1. Mayweather

    2. Pacqiuao

    3. Wright

    4. Taylor

    5. Hopkins

    6. Barrera

    7. R Marquez

    8. Calzaghe

    9. Hatton

    10. Cotto
    How you going to complain about Marquez, yet got no problem with Calzaghe being listed extremely too high?
    Well Joe has never lost a fight, he's been reigning champion for longer than anybody else boxing in any division and last year became the only super middleweight in history to be given a Ring belt.

    He's earned his spot. JMM has lost, and recently as well. His biggest ever fight he got a draw and he's got no big wins over marquee fighters.

    Don't get me wrong, he's a great fighter and could well beat Barrera next month. If he does, he deserves to be the p4p no question but until then he's just not done enough.
    I am the last Brit boxing follower in the world as you will see the Benny Hill and Ricky Hatton are omitted. My list is based on merit not press releases !



    1. Pacquiao (beneficiary of legendary Mexicans beating the $hit out of each other, gets and mops up the sloppy seconds and the hype follows.

    2. Calzaghe - undefeated and laced Lacy silly !!

    3. Mayweather (finally gets a live opponent in May) Get ready for shocking May results not in his favor.

    3. Wright - #1 in terms of boring

    4. Hopkins - just good, may lose it all any day without notice

    5. R. Marquez - In a dangerous fight with Israel, great boxer /puncher/finisher

    6. JM Marquez - will get more miles on his career in a slug fest with Barrera, then fed to Pacqiao. Needs to avoid Pac Man for 1 fight to
    recover. Jumping into a Pac fight favors Pac.

    7. Taylor - no power or discipline , and little competition

    8. Mosley - Hatton in R.I.P. if you somehow surpass my expectations of you in the Castillo fight, Mosley will finish you and render the
    posters in here helpless.

    9. Arce - waiting to brick the Vic

    10. Miranda - forget all the Cotto press

    can you name a fighter that has had harder competition over their last 4 fights?

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    I am the last Brit boxing follower in the world as you will see the Benny Hill and Ricky Hatton are omitted. My list is based on merit not press releases !

    1. Pacquiao (beneficiary of legendary Mexicans beating the $hit out of each other, gets and mops up the sloppy seconds and the hype follows.

    2. Calzaghe - undefeated and laced Lacy silly !!

    3. Mayweather (finally gets a live opponent in May) Get ready for shocking May results not in his favor.

    3. Wright - #1 in terms of boring

    4. Hopkins - just good, may lose it all any day without notice

    5. R. Marquez - In a dangerous fight with Israel, great boxer /puncher/finisher

    6. JM Marquez - will get more miles on his career in a slug fest with Barrera, then fed to Pacqiao. Needs to avoid Pac Man for 1 fight to
    recover. Jumping into a Pac fight favors Pac.

    7. Taylor - no power or discipline , and little competition

    8. Mosley - Hatton in R.I.P. if you somehow surpass my expectations of you in the Castillo fight, Mosley will finish you and render the
    posters in here helpless.

    9. Arce - waiting to brick the Vic

    10. Miranda - forget all the Cotto press
    I'm trying to decide which one is more outrageous:
    a. Calzaghe over Mayweather
    or
    b. Calling out Taylor for a lack of competition

    You do realize that Taylor has fought more tough opponents in the last 2 years than Calzaghe has in his whole career, right?

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Ok understandable oversights such as the competition remark re: Taylor. I can see having Mayweather over Calzaghe too. Just not impressed by Mayweathers opponents list. Can not wait for ODH to shut him and his followers up.


    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    I am the last Brit boxing follower in the world as you will see the Benny Hill and Ricky Hatton are omitted. My list is based on merit not press releases !

    1. Pacquiao (beneficiary of legendary Mexicans beating the $hit out of each other, gets and mops up the sloppy seconds and the hype follows.

    2. Calzaghe - undefeated and laced Lacy silly !!

    3. Mayweather (finally gets a live opponent in May) Get ready for shocking May results not in his favor.

    3. Wright - #1 in terms of boring

    4. Hopkins - just good, may lose it all any day without notice

    5. R. Marquez - In a dangerous fight with Israel, great boxer /puncher/finisher

    6. JM Marquez - will get more miles on his career in a slug fest with Barrera, then fed to Pacqiao. Needs to avoid Pac Man for 1 fight to
    recover. Jumping into a Pac fight favors Pac.

    7. Taylor - no power or discipline , and little competition

    8. Mosley - Hatton in R.I.P. if you somehow surpass my expectations of you in the Castillo fight, Mosley will finish you and render the
    posters in here helpless.

    9. Arce - waiting to brick the Vic

    10. Miranda - forget all the Cotto press
    I'm trying to decide which one is more outrageous:
    a. Calzaghe over Mayweather
    or
    b. Calling out Taylor for a lack of competition

    You do realize that Taylor has fought more tough opponents in the last 2 years than Calzaghe has in his whole career, right?

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true
    What language are you speaking ? Learn the context of troll and what the hell is noone? Take an ESL class or press the button below that says Spell Check...


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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true
    What language are you speaking ? Learn the context of troll and what the hell is noone? Take an ESL class or press the button below that says Spell Check...

    Ok chump, well troll according to Wikepedia is defined thus

    In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

    Maybe you need to understand the context properly yourself before you comment, unless exposing your low intellect to strangers in a forum is a hobby for you?

    My apologies for the noone grammatical error but I did write the post on my PDA at around 3 am in the morning whilst going for a dump.

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true
    What language are you speaking ? Learn the context of troll and what the hell is noone? Take an ESL class or press the button below that says Spell Check...

    Ok chump, well troll according to Wikepedia is defined thus

    In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

    Maybe you need to understand the context properly yourself before you comment, unless exposing your low intellect to strangers in a forum is a hobby for you?

    My apologies for the noone grammatical error but I did write the post on my PDA at around 3 am in the morning whilst going for a dump.

    I know troll means = you

    "I think his post was meant to be a troll" , still does not make sense . You are making a reference to a posting rather than a person brain dead poster. I guess that stool ripped more than anal cavity. You need comprehension skills read your own text from Wikepedia :a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.[/b]

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true
    What language are you speaking ? Learn the context of troll and what the hell is noone? Take an ESL class or press the button below that says Spell Check...

    Ok chump, well troll according to Wikepedia is defined thus

    In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

    Maybe you need to understand the context properly yourself before you comment, unless exposing your low intellect to strangers in a forum is a hobby for you?

    My apologies for the noone grammatical error but I did write the post on my PDA at around 3 am in the morning whilst going for a dump.

    I know troll means = you

    "I think his post was meant to be a troll" , still does not make sense . You are making a reference to a posting rather than a person brain dead poster. I guess that stool ripped more than anal cavity. You need comprehension skills read your own text from Wikepedia :a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.[/b]
    lol, you accuse me of writing an incorrect sentence and then come up with a gem of your own

    I know troll means = you

    means and = both have the same meaning in your poorly worded sentence, so you actually said I know troll means means you.

    No problem though, I'm not anal enough to highlight it to the rest of the forum unlike yourself.

    Good luck with your remedial classes.

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    I think his post was meant to be a troll, surely noone could believe what he put to be true
    What language are you speaking ? Learn the context of troll and what the hell is noone? Take an ESL class or press the button below that says Spell Check...

    Ok chump, well troll according to Wikepedia is defined thus

    In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.

    Maybe you need to understand the context properly yourself before you comment, unless exposing your low intellect to strangers in a forum is a hobby for you?

    My apologies for the noone grammatical error but I did write the post on my PDA at around 3 am in the morning whilst going for a dump.

    I know troll means = you

    "I think his post was meant to be a troll" , still does not make sense . You are making a reference to a posting rather than a person brain dead poster. I guess that stool ripped more than anal cavity. You need comprehension skills read your own text from Wikepedia :a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.[/b]
    lol, you accuse me of writing an incorrect sentence and then come up with a gem of your own

    I know troll means = you

    means and = both have the same meaning in your poorly worded sentence, so you actually said I know troll means means you.

    No problem though, I'm not anal enough to highlight it to the rest of the forum unlike yourself.

    Good luck with your remedial classes.

    You got me there .... writing while 1/2 asleep seems to be both our problems.. G-night

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    I wonder if Barrera will overtake Pac on the p4p rankings once he beats Marquez cuz he'll be doing something Pac couldnt .

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    Default Re: Why is Juan Manuel Marquez number 5 on the Saddo p4p Rankings?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    I wonder if Barrera will overtake Pac on the p4p rankings once he beats Marquez cuz he'll be doing something Pac couldnt .
    Very good point...he should jump up a spot, IWO, but he has to topple Marquez first...& Marquez aint as easy to beat as everyone boasts.
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