Mark Wahlberg to star as Micky Ward in 'The Fighter'

[meowza]

Who's gonna be playing Gatti then? Who the hell is there in Hollywood willing to take a meat tenderizer in the face repeatadly to look anything like him?

I think I found the answer to your question.

haha! cc
I love Gatti and should be offended. But that's just hilarious!
I'll be offended tomorrow instead

[CutMeMick]

Who's gonna be playing Gatti then? Who the hell is there in Hollywood willing to take a meat tenderizer in the face repeatadly to look anything like him?

I think I found the answer to your question.

haha! cc
I love Gatti and should be offended. But that's just hilarious!
I'll be offended tomorrow instead

You shouldn't it was done in good spirit to get a good laugh I need one.....

[DaxxKahn]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

[skyler]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

[DaxxKahn]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

[Fenster]

a drama about the Massachusetts-born boxer's unlikely road to the world lightweight title.

Wow, they're not kidding when they say unlikely. Mickey Ward never fought for the Lightweight title.
Sounds like pure fiction to me!

Nah, that's cool though. Never thought I'd see a Mickey Ward movie.

Don't laugh, but Ward beat Shea Neary (brilliant fight) for the WBU Lightwelter title...I remember he was delighted afterwards and very vocal about finally becoming WORLD champion.

[skyler]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

Read what I wrote dingbat. I said if it was like MLB's HOF, he wouldn't get in. If boxing's HOF had the criteria for induction of MLB's HOF, it wouldn't just let in fighters who are good, you have to be the best of the best. How beloved you are has nothing to do with it. Arturo Gatti never once for one day in his career cracked the top 10 p4p list. There's 17 different weight division with 3 different belts, meaning at any given time there's roughly 40 different guys holding onto world titles, and many of them may win another in a second division. Winning a title in a second division is hardly acclaim by itself to put someone into the HOF, IF boxing's HOF was like baseball's, which was my whole point

[amat]

So you're telling me...that when a young 10 year old strolls the halls of Canastota in 40 years, you don't want him to learn about Gatti?

If titles and belts were the criteria for the Hall, the hall would be a book and the plaques would be pictures and career records. Some people HAVE to get in on merit and Ward and Gatti are two of them imo.

[p4pking]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

Read what I wrote dingbat. I said if it was like MLB's HOF, he wouldn't get in. If boxing's HOF had the criteria for induction of MLB's HOF, it wouldn't just let in fighters who are good, you have to be the best of the best. How beloved you are has nothing to do with it. Arturo Gatti never once for one day in his career cracked the top 10 p4p list. There's 17 different weight division with 3 different belts, meaning at any given time there's roughly 40 different guys holding onto world titles, and many of them may win another in a second division. Winning a title in a second division is hardly acclaim by itself to put someone into the HOF, IF boxing's HOF was like baseball's, which was my whole point

You have a fair point and your opinion is valid, but you can't compare MLB or most any other sport to boxing, because the intagibles don't come into play . You don't have any blood and guts warriors in baseball, when's the last time one player put everything they had on the line to create one of the single best game of baseball ever? It's just not the same, stupid comparison. Gatti's famous, not for being an elite p4p guy, but for being a complete warrior who was in great fights. You can't measure that on paper.

[skyler]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

Read what I wrote dingbat. I said if it was like MLB's HOF, he wouldn't get in. If boxing's HOF had the criteria for induction of MLB's HOF, it wouldn't just let in fighters who are good, you have to be the best of the best. How beloved you are has nothing to do with it. Arturo Gatti never once for one day in his career cracked the top 10 p4p list. There's 17 different weight division with 3 different belts, meaning at any given time there's roughly 40 different guys holding onto world titles, and many of them may win another in a second division. Winning a title in a second division is hardly acclaim by itself to put someone into the HOF, IF boxing's HOF was like baseball's, which was my whole point

You have a fair point and your opinion is valid, but you can't compare MLB or most any other sport to boxing, because the intagibles don't come into play . You don't have any blood and guts warriors in baseball, when's the last time one player put everything they had on the line to create one of the single best game of baseball ever? It's just not the same, stupid comparison. Gatti's famous, not for being an elite p4p guy, but for being a complete warrior who was in great fights. You can't measure that on paper.

No one's comparing the sport of MLB or any other sport to boxing I'm saying baseball's idea of putting only the very best of the best into the HOF should be mirrored by boxing. Based on your assursion Emmanuel Burton is a boxing Hall of Famer. If anyone bothered to notice, I said I fully expect Gatti to be inducted based on how boxing's HOF is. I simply think boxing's HOF is a joke.

[p4pking]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

Read what I wrote dingbat. I said if it was like MLB's HOF, he wouldn't get in. If boxing's HOF had the criteria for induction of MLB's HOF, it wouldn't just let in fighters who are good, you have to be the best of the best. How beloved you are has nothing to do with it. Arturo Gatti never once for one day in his career cracked the top 10 p4p list. There's 17 different weight division with 3 different belts, meaning at any given time there's roughly 40 different guys holding onto world titles, and many of them may win another in a second division. Winning a title in a second division is hardly acclaim by itself to put someone into the HOF, IF boxing's HOF was like baseball's, which was my whole point

You have a fair point and your opinion is valid, but you can't compare MLB or most any other sport to boxing, because the intagibles don't come into play . You don't have any blood and guts warriors in baseball, when's the last time one player put everything they had on the line to create one of the single best game of baseball ever? It's just not the same, stupid comparison. Gatti's famous, not for being an elite p4p guy, but for being a complete warrior who was in great fights. You can't measure that on paper.

No one's comparing the sport of MLB or any other sport to boxing I'm saying baseball's idea of putting only the very best of the best into the HOF should be mirrored by boxing. Based on your assursion Emmanuel Burton is a boxing Hall of Famer. If anyone bothered to notice, I said I fully expect Gatti to be inducted based on how boxing's HOF is. I simply think boxing's HOF is a joke.

You were comparing them, simply by saying that boxing's HOF should be like another sport, or that if it was like another sport the comparison has to be drawn, and my point was that boxing isn't really like any other sport. People don't become one of the most prominent and eventually famous figures in other sports without having top calibre talent, least not many. Gatti did, based on his sheer toughness and heart, and the performances he put on. Therefore, for a while, he was considered one of the best of the best in boxing. Not by experts, but more people knew of him and paid to see him fight then save for another 2 or 3 fighters in the sport. Doesn't matter if you or I didn't consider him one of the best, alot of people probably did. So what if the odd guy get's in to the HOF who is perhaps questionable in terms of being top calibre, it's not as if that therefore puts them on the same plane as Duran and Ray Robinson on skills or achievements.. It's the hall of FAME. I really don't understand how you can be against Gatti being accepted.

[Lords Gym]

should be a good film.. I like Mark Wahlberg a really good actor in my opinion , My girl and I watched a movie called "Invincible" last week on DVD, We really enjoyed the film. True story about a bartender who tries out for the Philadelphia Eagles . a good refreshing watch !

[amat]

CC 340 P4P. You're exactly right. Especially on the last part. People seem to forget...it's the hall of FAME. FAME. The most famous baseball players get in to. It's just that in baseball, the most famous players are the best ones.

In boxing, you don't have to be the absolute best to be famous. Emmanuel Augustus is nowhere near as famous Gatti. He's had a few good fights but please, he has nothing on Gatti or Ward. Come on now, Augustus as famous as Gatti?

Gatti is perhaps the most famed fighter of this generation. How many FOTY's has he been in? I mean the guy leaves it ALL in the ring. If the requirements for the hall of fame was that they had to be the absolute best fighters from each and every generation then Gatti would be by no means a hall of famer. But the hall of fame is for guys who bettered the sport, advanced the sport, entertained fans and those who acheived fame. Gatti accomplished all that and then some. Sure the guys' accomplishments do have to be a factor aswell but he WAS a champion. I mean it's not like he spent his whole career on the underbelly of the contender list. The Hall of Fame is for people who deserve to be frozen in time alongside other legends, Arturo Gatti is LEGENDARY. He is this generations Carmen Basilio minus the victories over Sugar Ray (Basilio would have got even if he lost imo). He is this generation's Beau Jack or Tony Zale. Maybe not quite the number of wins as those guys, but guys who didn't have the skills of the elite fighters, guys who weren't world beaters but guys who were immensly popular and left their body in the ring everytime they went out.

Arturo Gatti is absolutely something I want people of future generations to be able to read about. He is a guy who doesn't ever deserve to be forgotten.Now I'm not saying his accomplishments are legendary, and he definitely isn't a hall of famer on paper, but it's the IBHOF's job to go past the notepad and enshrine him. He's first ballot imo no question. I'm surprised there is such a strong sentiment to keep him out to be honest.

It's not called the hall of BEST, it's the hall of fame.

[skyler]

You are so mean...

Nah! man!
I love me some Gatti, I'm one of THE few who thinks Gatti is HofFame....

Wasn't that a thread topic not to long ago??....Is Gatti HOF worthy....

IMO he is a shoe in....The guy is not the greatest on a tech basis thats for sure but he has given us some great fights and has the true heart of a fighter and thats what it is about what you contribute not who beats you

If boxing's HOF was legit like MLB's, Gatti would never get in. However since the Boxing HOF let's in every single fighter under the sun I'm sure Gatti will be inducted.

How do you figure Gatti is not worthy of HOF status...He is a two division champion....He has fight of the year honors,,round of the years honors and has given us some of the most exciting bouts this era..Thats not worthy why??

I don't think you understand what HOF is

Read what I wrote dingbat. I said if it was like MLB's HOF, he wouldn't get in. If boxing's HOF had the criteria for induction of MLB's HOF, it wouldn't just let in fighters who are good, you have to be the best of the best. How beloved you are has nothing to do with it. Arturo Gatti never once for one day in his career cracked the top 10 p4p list. There's 17 different weight division with 3 different belts, meaning at any given time there's roughly 40 different guys holding onto world titles, and many of them may win another in a second division. Winning a title in a second division is hardly acclaim by itself to put someone into the HOF, IF boxing's HOF was like baseball's, which was my whole point

You have a fair point and your opinion is valid, but you can't compare MLB or most any other sport to boxing, because the intagibles don't come into play . You don't have any blood and guts warriors in baseball, when's the last time one player put everything they had on the line to create one of the single best game of baseball ever? It's just not the same, stupid comparison. Gatti's famous, not for being an elite p4p guy, but for being a complete warrior who was in great fights. You can't measure that on paper.

No one's comparing the sport of MLB or any other sport to boxing I'm saying baseball's idea of putting only the very best of the best into the HOF should be mirrored by boxing. Based on your assursion Emmanuel Burton is a boxing Hall of Famer. If anyone bothered to notice, I said I fully expect Gatti to be inducted based on how boxing's HOF is. I simply think boxing's HOF is a joke.

You were comparing them, simply by saying that boxing's HOF should be like another sport, or that if it was like another sport the comparison has to be drawn, and my point was that boxing isn't really like any other sport. People don't become one of the most prominent and eventually famous figures in other sports without having top calibre talent, least not many. Gatti did, based on his sheer toughness and heart, and the performances he put on. Therefore, for a while, he was considered one of the best of the best in boxing. Not by experts, but more people knew of him and paid to see him fight then save for another 2 or 3 fighters in the sport. Doesn't matter if you or I didn't consider him one of the best, alot of people probably did. So what if the odd guy get's in to the HOF who is perhaps questionable in terms of being top calibre, it's not as if that therefore puts them on the same plane as Duran and Ray Robinson on skills or achievements.. It's the hall of FAME. I really don't understand how you can be against Gatti being accepted.

Dude, I seriously don't know how to spell this out any clearer for you. Try taking a look at my very first post in this thread. I said if boxing's HALL OF FAME was like MLB's HALL OF FAME. I'm talking about CRITERIA, it has nothing to do with the actual sports. I simply think boxing should only let in the best of the best. You seem to think otherwise. As I already clearly stated, based on how boxing is, Gatti would get in, and you seem to agree with that and that's fine. I simply think boxing should only let in the best of the best, and if someone was never a p4p candidate in their own generation, let alone all time, that would not be enough for induction. Do you not seem to understand that I know what the IBHOF looks for? I do, that's why I said Gatti will probably get in. Why do you seem to have a personal problem with my opinion?

[smashcrusher]

CC 340 P4P. You're exactly right. Especially on the last part. People seem to forget...it's the hall of FAME. FAME. The most famous baseball players get in to. It's just that in baseball, the most famous players are the best ones.

In boxing, you don't have to be the absolute best to be famous. Emmanuel Augustus is nowhere near as famous Gatti. He's had a few good fights but please, he has nothing on Gatti or Ward. Come on now, Augustus as famous as Gatti?

Gatti is perhaps the most famed fighter of this generation. How many FOTY's has he been in? I mean the guy leaves it ALL in the ring. If the requirements for the hall of fame was that they had to be the absolute best fighters from each and every generation then Gatti would be by no means a hall of famer. But the hall of fame is for guys who bettered the sport, advanced the sport, entertained fans and those who acheived fame. Gatti accomplished all that and then some. Sure the guys' accomplishments do have to be a factor aswell but he WAS a champion. I mean it's not like he spent his whole career on the underbelly of the contender list. The Hall of Fame is for people who deserve to be frozen in time alongside other legends, Arturo Gatti is LEGENDARY. He is this generations Carmen Basilio minus the victories over Sugar Ray (Basilio would have got even if he lost imo). He is this generation's Beau Jack or Tony Zale. Maybe not quite the number of wins as those guys, but guys who didn't have the skills of the elite fighters, guys who weren't world beaters but guys who were immensly popular and left their body in the ring everytime they went out.

Arturo Gatti is absolutely something I want people of future generations to be able to read about. He is a guy who doesn't ever deserve to be forgotten.Now I'm not saying his accomplishments are legendary, and he definitely isn't a hall of famer on paper, but it's the IBHOF's job to go past the notepad and enshrine him. He's first ballot imo no question. I'm surprised there is such a strong sentiment to keep him out to be honest.

It's not called the hall of BEST, it's the hall of fame.

So when's Butterbean getting in . You cannot possibly be this naive.