Quote Originally Posted by atomic bull
Quote Originally Posted by Starr
I liked Ali better. Because it showed James toney getting knocked out by Charles Shuffurd

But I really liked Ali a lot better. Because Will Smith impressed me with his portrayal of Ali. Cinderella man I think was alright, but it didn't do it for me like I thought it should. And they didn't end it in the Thrilla in Manilla because the Foreman fight was Ali's greatest accomplishment inside the ring because people gave him no chance.

Why didn't they end the Braddock movie with him dooming Joe Louis to his future as a casino greeter?
How did Braddock doom Louis to a greeter at Caesars, when Louis made 25 title defenses. but both movies were bad IMO, first of all Will Smith did a horrible impression of ALI, he sounded nothing like him at all, to me it was a joke. And Cinderella Man was okay until they showed the Baer-Braddock fight as a war, Baer clowned the entire fight, basically giving the fight away. By all acounts that I have read over the yrs Baer was never big on training in the first place, but after the death of Frankie Campbell he never fought with the same feirceness again. I seen the fight on classic espn a few times and Baer was acting like a clown.
I enjoyed the Cinderella Man as entertainment but I too hated the typical American Hollywood 'lets just chnage how it was' revisionist crap.

They potrayed Baer as an absolute animal, a sadistic cruel man who had nothing but contempt for Braddock. I've actually seen Max Baer being interviewed before the Braddock fight and he says of Braddock 'He's got a great punch and I'll have to be careful. If he catches me it could be good night Maxy!'. Hardly the kind of talk the cinematic Baer would have said.

Like you said, he actually had the reputation of being a clown, and not taking boxing too seriously, preferring to always be a joker rather than seriously knuckle down to training. I guesss there is no point moaning Hollywood's portrayal however. I mean if they can completely revise the History of World War 2 and have Ben Affleck single handedly winning the Battle of Britain, or American scientists cracking the enigma code then I guess trampling all over Baer's history is small fry by comparison.