Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Right up till the mid 90's, Holyfield always put his punches together in twos and threes,
And Ali in his prime could put them together in fours and fives
Not for 3 minutes a round for 12 or 15 rounds though. (Without slapping/ pawing or what ever the fuck he was doing in the 1st fraizer fight )

Ali slapped alot of his punches, never mind just the jab.
Yet he managed to slap the crap out of Sonny Liston to take the title, slapped Patterson until he was out on his feet, slapped George Foreman to the canvas, and slapped Joe Frazier's face to the point where his eyes were completely shut.
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Come on, Liston was past it, Paterson was a joke anyway, plus he was old and had a bad back
And Fraizer was never exactly hard to hit or mark up.



P.S dont even bother with the George Foreman comparison because we all know Foreman was gassed by the time he was KO'ed plus he paid much MUCH more attention to his guard as a fat man :P
If Foreman had fought the prime Ali, he would've been completely gassed by the 5th round instead of lasting until the 8th, because if he was fighting prime Ali, he would've been chasing around the fastest heavyweight in history.
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Fair point. Damn you! :P

Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
i guess since everyone is only talking a bout holy not being able to beat ali..means that every one concedes that lennox knocks him the F*** out.....

overrated ali....self proclaimed greatest doesn't make it so....
Just don't include me with everyone, I think a prime Ali gives a boxing lesson to Holyfield, Lewis, or any other heavyweight for that matter.
Self-proclaimed greatest? It ain't bragging when you back it up....

P.S. How does a Pernell Whitaker-Shane Mosley thread turn into a Holyfield/Ali/Tyson debate. lol
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i dunno, i have this affect some times