thanks D. Appreciate the compliment! Yeah, I'll draw it out and fax it to ya.. or if you can think of a way I can get it on the computer I'll upload it, but as of now I don't have scanner. And ideas?

Van, as D said, weights aren't all that good. I see guys shadow box with them but IMO, waste of time. You can't put forth enough effort to build more power because you'll kill your joints on hyperextention. The only think I can think of is Title.com's weighted bag gloves. Re wrist weights, I've tried them and they slide. But I think wrist weights would be better than hands weights. Just my best guess.

I should note, when I normally do those exercizes, I load the weight up real good, to the point where I'm struggling after 5-7 reps. I'm really working it and starting to grunt. I just wanted to demonstrate the sytem and how it worked so I only used about 10pounds or so. I've had it up to about 35.. and trust me, that's a TON for all those little muscles that aren't used to being worked to that extreme.