In the first fight Roy definitely was weight drained but he gutted out a tough win (and yes, i think Roy won the first fight). He also looked sharp in the beginning of the second fight...but he got caught. Was it a lucky punch...to some extent maybe. But it also showed that Roy's incredible reflexes had already begun to slip (whether due to age or the damaging effects of having come down in weight). It is quite shocking to think he had so much trouble with Tarver. But i think it's a combination of styles, lingering effects of coming down from heavyweight, and age. There is no doubt that the Tarver knockout had lingering physical damage and lowered his confidence in his next bouts. To this day it's painful to watch that fight.