Im with you on this one Wack, you knew that already. Valuev aint great but he isnt as bad as some people would make out. When you take into acount his size he really shouldnt be as good as he is, technically he isnt bad. Sam Peter gets a heap of praise for winning fights and giving Wlad a decent arguement whilst not being the polished article, why cant Valuev get props for being pretty decent whilst being that size? There is a train of thought that says once a fighter passes a certain size threshold it starts to work against him, Valuev breaks that 'rule' probably due to his past exploits as an athelete (shotput/discus and handball)