Quote Originally Posted by amat
And Bilbo, I think even if Hopkins didn't win against Tarver he still is above Jones in term of legacy. I just think he is the more accomplished fighter...
I don't know whose legacy I rate highest to be honest. Hopkins dominated a relatively weak middleweight division whilst Jones moved up and dominated two relatively minor divisions in super middle and light heavyweight.

Jones' biggest wins are against Hopkins, but before Hop was in his prime, a massively weight drained James Toney and a rather useless heavyweight champ.

Hopkins' biggest wins are against two Hall of famers in Oscar and Trinidad BUT they had to come up in weight to fight him, and Antonio Tarver who no matter what people thought about him was THE man at 175 lb.

You gotta say that Trinidad and Oscar for Hopkins is about equal to Hopkins and Toney for Jones.

Jones beat Hopkins so gains a point there but Hopkins beat both guys who sparked Jones out.

Jones won the heavyweight crown against a weak champ, whilst Hopkins won the light heavyweight crown against the strongest champ at that time.

I'd say they are about even in terms of legacy right now.

If Hopkins beats Wright, he edges ahead. If he followed that up with a win against a S*** heavyweight to win an alphabet belt I would say that makes him the greatest American fighter of his era, ahead of Jones and Toney.