Quote Originally Posted by Preme
Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
I don't think he's nunber 3 yet. Vazquez wasn't a p4p fighter imo. I predicted before the fight it would be very one sided and apart from the flash knockdown in the third it was.

I'd still put Floyd, Pacquiao, Winky, Barrera, Hopkins, Taylor and maybe Calzaghe ahead of him, I mean come on people Vazaquez isn't any better than a Lacy or a Tarver, although I can imagine El Gamo will be frantically writing to point out the foolishness of my views
Vazquez is more than a fighter who can knock out old past it ones, and can box well, he doesn't rely soly on his power so imo he is streets ahead of btoh tarver and lacy.

if rafa isn't top 3 yet he must be atleast 4 or 5? i think he is clearly in front of taylor, he can fight for every second of every round, has big power, great in his feet, picks his punches as good as anyone, he looked to be very very acurate in his last fight! I can understand your barrera point, why i said its hard to place him just yet untill we see this weekends fight, but from past fights yes IMo he is higher than barrera, i think if it was most other fighters who had done what barrera had in his last two outings he wudn't be that high, we al wanna give hi the benefit of the doubt coz of what hes done in the past i think and hope he has been saving him self for a test like this one...

i would rake rafa above both hopkin and calzaghe to in a hearbeat right now! hopkins is 1 from 3 with his win coming over a guy i really don't rate that much, calzaghe didn't show up to the bika fight and is fighting a contender.
I agree that he is but I would also say that Tarver and Lacy are too.

Lacy and Tarver are now too examples of excellent boxers who are are now vastly underratted. Lacy is still one of the best super middles in the world and will show that once his shoulder has healed up and Tarver no matter how much people hate on him was once the man at 175 lb.