Van, show me one mma guy who can throw combos like any of those boxers. and show me one mma guy who can simple take the fight down at will. babalu tried to take down chuck and got killed. and show me one fight that doesn't start with stand-up. MMA punching is as crude and sloppy as it gets. No jab, or pawing at best, they go for one shot KO's, etc. Mirko, who probably could transition to top level boxing, is the only guy who's ever impressed me with his hands. and we all know how good he is. Like I said before, I'll give you mirko and fedor... they'd have a shot, but do you really think gracie back in his prime could have survived even 30seconds with fasts as fast as Tyson's?

I'm also not sure why everyone thinks it's so hard to sprawl. It aint THAT hard. It's a HELL of a lot harder to teach 15years worth of boxing that it is a sprawl.