Quote Originally Posted by Missy
Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Quote Originally Posted by Missy
if he had fallen down, then I agree, if he had been knocked down (and it was called) and was getting up I would agree but it was neither of those cases. Who checks to see if their gloves are on the floor when they're bent over at the waist and in the process of rising? Target, hit it.
He did go down!!!
He went down from a punch, his knees (and gloves) clearly hit the canvas. He was getting up, and got clocked by a dirty punch.
When an opponent hits the canvas, whether it's because of a knockdown, a slip, a push, or whatever.... you wait for him to stand up and get back on his feet. You don't hover over him with your right hand cocked back, ready to sucker punch him.

The people who are defending Barrera in this instance either:
a. haven't seen the tape of what happened
or
b. are even more in love with Barrera than Jim Lampley
I'm discussing the nature of the touchdown. If it was a slip, where was nady to step in? Nowhere. Was it a knockdown? No, Nady didn't call it as that either. If it was a slip why wasn't nady between them? To call a halt to the action and then wave them on?

so you're now saying he was up? Therefore it's ok to hit him.
The "nature" of the touchdown is absolutely pointless.

Are we in agreement that Marquez went down to the canvas with his knees and gloves?? If the answer is "yes," then I don't see what else there is to argue.

If he went to the canvas, then any boxer with a functioning brain (and Barrera is a smart guy) knows that it is illegal to hit an opponent either while he is down on the canvas, or while he is in the process of pulling himself up.

It doesn't matter if Barrera thought it was a knockdown.
It doesn't matter if Barrera thought Marquez slipped.
It doesn't matter if Nady was late in getting between them.
It doesn't matter if Barrera was unsure whether Nady was going to rule it a knockdown or a slip.

All that matters is that Marquez went down right in front of Barrera's eyes. Therefore, if Barrera didn't know that he was doing something wrong by throwing another punch several seconds after Marquez went down, then Barrera is either blind or mentally incompentent.

Or it could be another answer.... that he's a dirty fighter at times and decided to break a rule.