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the guy beat James Toney Reggie Johnson Bernard Hopkins Clinton Woods Virgil Hill Montell Griffin and bunch of other great fighters to the people who criticize Jones record tell me who else he could of fought at that time that was any greater than the names i just mentioned
Montell Griffin is not really a great fighter and neither is Woods. Jones was awesome in his middleweight/supermiddleweight days (when he did face good opposition) and I give him all the props in the world for beating Ruiz for a heavyweight title fraction. I have always liked Roy Jones Jr, but he has fought more bums, gas station attendents and garbagemen than any other hall of fame fighter ever has, man. He ran his career in a safe and businesslike way; getting paid for doing the least amount of work. He could have fought Tarver earlier in his career and maybe even closed the book on him so he never had to rematch him. He could have fought Darius Michaelzewski or traveled to Wales to fight Calzaghe years ago. He could have given Toney a rematch at light heavy or Hopkins a rematch at super middle. He had all kinds of options but chose to take the easier fights and too many times, put more effort into his ring entrances/rap performances than he did into fighting worthy opposition. I love RJJ but it's true. You can't make a mark knocking out a garbage man, even if you fight him with your hands behind your back.
right i like you but i disagree on some parts here ill put it in bold


Montell Griffin was great at that time i mean he beat James Toney twice thats some achievement

why would p4p number 1 fighter travel to wales ?? thats big no no in my book if Calzaghe wants title of being p4p number 1 and beating great champion like Jones he has to come to him

i don't see why he would have to give Toney a rematch he already shut him out virtually winning almost every round


as i say again

James Toney Reggie Johnson Bernard Hopkins Clinton Woods Virgil Hill Montell Griffin

thats pretty great list of fighters to beat

in last say 15 years who has beaten better opposition than Roy Jones ??

i don't think your find many
Gotta CC you here ICB... People can rag on Roy Jones all they want all day about how he didn't fight Eubank, Benn, Collins, or whoever.. But at the end of the day they are basically criticizing him for not travelling overseas where he would make far less money, and have a greater chance to get robbed should it go to the cards. It's silly as fukck. Roy Jones ducked Steve Collins THat's literally hilarious. Steve Collins who lost to Reggie Johnson in his prime... Roy ducked him, even though he never fought in the USA ONCE in his entire career, and lost to 2 opponents Roy Jones beat easily... What a farce. Jones JR would have made Collins loook like a completele amatuer. Anyone who can honestly hold something against Jones for not fighting this man is EXTREMELY biased, no matter what anyone else says. If for no other reason(such as his not beating anyone to deserve a shot), the guy had a style that was MADE for RJ jr. It's such a fukin joke, I tell you.
Sorry, but this is so bad it's unbelievable. I suggest a visit to boxrec is in order at the very least.