Naz vs JMM?

[Tysonbruno]

JMM is a well schooled fighter but i believe Naz would have ko'd him like i said he got dropped 3 times in one round by Pac and Naz hits harder than Pac also Naz would have ko'd morales too he got rocked about abit by Injin Chi i just think an on form Naz would have beat them all Barrera did'nt even beat the Naz we all knew he was just seeking the ko no boxing as such Naz beat himself in my opinion

[miron_lang]

Hamed was an exciting fighter in his day, but any of the top Mexican featherweights would have beaten him.

Morales or Marquez could have given him the same type of beatdown that Barrera gave him.

Never

Most Likely

JMM. Erik and MAB has superb boxing skills. all 3 of them UD's hamed WIDE.

[Addicted to_boxing]

JMM is a well schooled fighter but i believe Naz would have ko'd him like i said he got dropped 3 times in one round by Pac and Naz hits harder than Pac also Naz would have ko'd morales too he got rocked about abit by Injin Chi i just think an on form Naz would have beat them all Barrera did'nt even beat the Naz we all knew he was just seeking the ko no boxing as such Naz beat himself in my opinion

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB. Obviosly your hero had character issues and only would have suffered more losses with the stripping of confidence MAB issued to him that night. Naz simply realized that his best was not good enough. The only thing Naz ever possesed was a punchers chance. But skills ......please ...... the guys is falling all over the ring whether he is losing or winning the round. Naseem Hamed's opponents record http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/1209606.stm is not all that spectacular. What you are living in is the past and I bet the run was fun filled for you Naz fans til MAB ruined the party. So I guess letting go of the experience (the ride ) is harder for NAZ fans than Naz himself.

[cockey cockney]

JMM at his best absolutely fucking schools any form of Naz. Same as Pacman, Barrera (already has) and Morales. Better boxers, its as simple as that

[Wacko3205]

Even now Hameds dangerous. At the wheel.

I was going to say that he'd be dangerous at the "all you can eat buffet line"!

Naz vs. Jean Marc Mormeck would be an interesting fight. From the recent pics I've seen, Naz would definitely enter the ring as the bigger man.





Oh wait.... you mean Juan Manuel Marquez?

Heh heh heh.

[GAME]

It depends if JMM could take his shots. Barrera floored JMM but not Nas . If Marquez played it safe he could outbox Nas , if he got ambitious it would be like the 1st round of the Pac fight

[Tysonbruno]

JMM is a well schooled fighter but i believe Naz would have ko'd him like i said he got dropped 3 times in one round by Pac and Naz hits harder than Pac also Naz would have ko'd morales too he got rocked about abit by Injin Chi i just think an on form Naz would have beat them all Barrera did'nt even beat the Naz we all knew he was just seeking the ko no boxing as such Naz beat himself in my opinion

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB. Obviosly your hero had character issues and only would have suffered more losses with the stripping of confidence MAB issued to him that night. Naz simply realized that his best was not good enough. The only thing Naz ever possesed was a punchers chance. But skills ......please ...... the guys is falling all over the ring whether he is losing or winning the round. Naseem Hamed's opponents record http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/1209606.stm is not all that spectacular. What you are living in is the past and I bet the run was fun filled for you Naz fans til MAB ruined the party. So I guess letting go of the experience (the ride ) is harder for NAZ fans than Naz himself.

Did'nt Trinidad do the exact same thing lose a fight win a fight then retire but the then he comes back wins a fight loses a fight retires again so i suppose in that sence you could say Naz is the same sort of boxer as Tito

[Howlin Mad Missy]

see now you want banning.

[CutMeMick]

JMM is a well schooled fighter but i believe Naz would have ko'd him like i said he got dropped 3 times in one round by Pac and Naz hits harder than Pac also Naz would have ko'd morales too he got rocked about abit by Injin Chi i just think an on form Naz would have beat them all Barrera did'nt even beat the Naz we all knew he was just seeking the ko no boxing as such Naz beat himself in my opinion

Is that why Naz took the fight when it was offered to him?
According to some of you guys that's when Naz was still at his best and yet he didn't take the fight... Hmmmm!!!
But yet once he fought MAB he was no longer the same Naz
So what I don't understand is how do you guys determine he could beat sooo many people if when he was at his best he turned down fights! and when (according to some of you) he was no longer at his best he lost...

But yet! he seems to beat everyone in matchups...

[Majesty]

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB.

ahem...

FELIX TRINIDAD!!!!!!!!

[Majesty]

JMM is a well schooled fighter but i believe Naz would have ko'd him like i said he got dropped 3 times in one round by Pac and Naz hits harder than Pac also Naz would have ko'd morales too he got rocked about abit by Injin Chi i just think an on form Naz would have beat them all Barrera did'nt even beat the Naz we all knew he was just seeking the ko no boxing as such Naz beat himself in my opinion

Is that why Naz took the fight when it was offered to him?
According to some of you guys that's when Naz was still at his best and yet he didn't take the fight... Hmmmm!!!
But yet once he fought MAB he was no longer the same Naz
So what I don't understand is how do you guys determine he could beat sooo many people if when he was at his best he turned down fights! and when (according to some of you) he was no longer at his best he lost...

But yet! he seems to beat everyone in matchups...

Not really, been checking Hamed out on youtube, Billy Hardy Steve Robinson Tom Johnson Kevin Kelley Molina, and one I posted earlier in this thread and he looked pretty good, but then I watched his fight with Kid Vegas(who;s name slips my mind because im tired ) And he looked completely different so I'd say you'd have a legit point if you said he wasn't on form anymore when he fought Barerra, but at the same time you must say had Barerra not been at the top of his game and the best Barerra he had ever been up until that point he may have lost as well. Barerra was the greatest he had ever been that night, and nobody would have beaten him that night and Barerra is a legend so I don't see a shame in Hamed losing to him just like I don't see a shame in Trinidad losing to Hopkins. Doesn't hurt your legacy imo. Now if Barerra had won and then gotten beat bad and retired then you'd be saying Hamed was an overrated so and so but he lost to freaking BARERRA!!! And a prime Barerra that was the best he had ever been. No shame there imo.

[CutMeMick]

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB.

ahem...

FELIX TRINIDAD!!!!!!!!

Tito didn't retire cause of the loss. He retired for various reasons his father, his wife, he pretty had done everything he wanted to do. FIghting B-Hop was just something that he said ahh! fuck it! what have I got to loose...
Naz on the other hand was not even half way to doing what he wanted and got stopped dead on his tracks.....
IMO 2 totally different things....

[Majesty]

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB.

ahem...

FELIX TRINIDAD!!!!!!!!

Tito didn't retire cause of the loss. He retired for various reasons his father, his wife, he pretty had done everything he wanted to do.

you COULD say the same thing about hamed can't you? How much money had he made at only 26 at that point?

And I don't think Hopkins was an "I got nothing to lose" He was fighting for the Sugar Ray Robinson honor trophy as part of a tounament where he would get one of the greatest honors in boxing that Ray Robinson trophy made for that competition. You mean to tell me Tito approached that with an "ah fck it" attitude

[CutMeMick]

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB.

ahem...

FELIX TRINIDAD!!!!!!!!

Tito didn't retire cause of the loss. He retired for various reasons his father, his wife, he pretty had done everything he wanted to do.

you COULD say the same thing about hamed can't you? How much money had he made at only 26 at that point?

And I don't think Hopkins was an "I got nothing to lose" He was fighting for the Sugar Ray Robinson honor trophy as part of a tounament where he would get one of the greatest honors in boxing that Ray Robinson trophy made for that competition. You mean to tell me Tito approached that with an "ah fck it" attitude

$Money$ come on Majesty.....
How much Naz footage have you seen?
His fwocken mouth wouldn't stop flapping about how great he was and how no one would EVER beat him and how he wanted to be the Undisputed Champ. of the world.....
Your on other subject if your talking about money.....
All that money he made could never buy him what he wanted the most and that be THE recognized Undisputed Champ. he was on his way no doubt but it was not to be....

About 'Tito' vs. B-Hop, I can't say he Tito was going in to that fight with that state of mind as hes a fighter, BUT where could he go after beating ODLH, Vargas, Joppy, Whittaker, Campas?
The only way was up in weight and prior to the B-Hop fight (If Puya remembers hearing or reading this) Titos pop slipped and accidently mentioned retirement before the B-Hop fight in a interview in PR.....
Stuff like that leads me to belive Tito was thinking 'Happy thoughts' vacationing and all and was not thinking fight time!!
Just my opinion....

[Majesty]

Just let go .............. What type of boxed retires after his 1st loss? The type that knows the recipe to beat him is visible to the top boxers thanks in part to MAB.

ahem...

FELIX TRINIDAD!!!!!!!!

Tito didn't retire cause of the loss. He retired for various reasons his father, his wife, he pretty had done everything he wanted to do.

you COULD say the same thing about hamed can't you? How much money had he made at only 26 at that point?

And I don't think Hopkins was an "I got nothing to lose" He was fighting for the Sugar Ray Robinson honor trophy as part of a tounament where he would get one of the greatest honors in boxing that Ray Robinson trophy made for that competition. You mean to tell me Tito approached that with an "ah fck it" attitude

$Money$ come on Majesty.....
How much Naz footage have you seen?
His fwocken mouth wouldn't stop flapping about how great he was and how no one would EVER beat him and how he wanted to be the Undisputed Champ. of the world.....
Your on other subject if your talking about money.....
All that money he made could never buy him what he wanted the most and that be THE recognized Undisputed Champ. he was on his way no doubt but it was not to be....

About 'Tito' vs. B-Hop, I can't say he Tito was going in to that fight with that state of mind as hes a fighter, BUT where could he go after beating ODLH, Vargas, Joppy, Whittaker, Campas?
The only way was up in weight and prior to the B-Hop fight (If Puya remembers hearing or reading this) Titos pop slipped and accidently mentioned retirement before the B-Hop fight in a interview in PR.....
Stuff like that leads me to belive Tito was thinking 'Happy thoughts' vacationing and all and was not thinking fight time!!
Just my opinion....

You have your opinion and I have mine and I respect yours greatly, I just think it can be said both ways. to be fair anyway.