i wouldn't say john got manipulated as such, just ben didn't stop him blowing the sub up...

"this box" thing sounds a bit fucking nuts tho; i hope its a metephore of sorts, 'co\ come on you can't just have a fucking box that has in it what ever u wished for, i mean the world would be full of jessica albas for fucks sake!

His father must of been doing a runner and some how got stranded there and the others found him? Oh, and anyone else thinking Johns father is the conn man who fucked Sawyers family over? The 'real Sawyer' if you will? So far everyone seems to have a link yeah Sawyer met jacks/claires dad in the land down under, but john don;t see to be linked ot anyone yet, i think its his dad who is the conn man who done what ever it was to Sawyers mother that made his dad kill um both, the one Sawyer has been carrying or was carrying that ntoe around for!