As fans, we could argue abotu this all day. But the fact is we have three people who have been in the ring with him - Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, and Tex Cobb - who say he is the hardest hitter they've fought. This is saying a hell of a lot. Ali fought Liston, Frazier, Foreman, ect. Holmes fought a prime Tyson. The fact that these guys say Shavers hit harder says all that needs to be said IMO, because its coming from guys who have been in there and felt his power as opposed to people like us who have just seen it on video tape.