Quote Originally Posted by Samson3000
Julio Caesar Chavez, the president and CEO of bum beaters.
You must not like many boxers from the past eras as most boxers fought whomever and whenever.....

I've made this debate before with MANY people and I always say the same way fighters loose early in their careers like Hopkins, Arguello the Marquez brothers JCC could have also lost that same way but he didn't....

I wont debate the quality of his opponents cause the facts are there but I will debate you smashing him like hes the only fighter in history to have build up a career this way especially in the time he fought....

I've said it before thats fine take away 35 fights (as most people that I've debated with somehow have determined thats the amount of 'bums' he faced) and his record still stands at 73-6-2 better then almost any fighter from his time with some great names on his resume. For the sake of your argument I'll leave his loses to Wise & Wiley on his record (eventhough they fall under your 'bum' category.

So now that we cut his career down and took off those 35 wins, his career is still there. It's funny though cause if you take many fighters records from the past eras you can easily point out fighters had 20-30 fights against what your calling 'bums'..... Don't belive me check the records; Duran, Arguello, Olivares, Jorge F. Castro, Jose L. Ramirez..... But these fighters also have great names Pernell, SRL, RJJ to name a few....

When you come out and label him as the 'Bum beater you pretty much, drag a shit load of other names with his' (if you would measure them with the same stick)