Sorry ICB, Bowe is 6'5...Wlad is 6'6-6'7...my bad.

Quote Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
Foreman also had something called "heavy hands" which you cant get from any kind of newer techniques or weightlifting. His hands were HUGE a la Joe Louis and many other bombers. I can't believe people are comparing Klitschko to a legend like Foreman. Let's face the facts here, Klitschko looks great because he is surrounded by a bunch of mediocre clowns at best. I mean, that Austin fight was a joke. There is no one to test this guy so we may never know if he is any good. Sure he has tools and does execute some good textbook boxing moves. He is not showing a whole lot more of that than he was when he first was making waves, beating down an old Ray Mercer and then Jameel McCline. And then he got knocked out. Twice. By basically nobody. So he has gotten a little bit better at working offensively from a distance to keep his opponents away from his chin. That will only work as long as he fights opponents who dont have the heart or the chin to take a punch or two from him to get inside and really whack him. As soon as that happens, I would not be surprised if we see Wladimir Klitschko on Dream Street again. Like Foreman, Klitschko also has something that newer, more advanced training and weightlifting technologies cannot help or hinder...a glass jaw. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any credit or that he is a bum. I'm just saying when you judge a fighter, you look at the people he's fought. Take a look at George Foreman's list of opponents and compare it to Klitschko's before you go and start putting Wladimir up on that high pedestal. He is merely the most talented of ordinary...and he has a great trainer in his corner.
You can get heavy hands from weight lifting and not training properly....if you're just talking about not being able to throw quick punches.

If you're talking about power, then no....his power was natural

Dave Wladimir has fought and beat some very good fighters....he has fought better competition than anyone else in the division. He just turned 31 and already has 51 fights and has 43 KO's in his 48 wins!!!! That's impressive no matter who you're fighting.

And don't call Corrie Sanders a nobody...or Lamon Brewster those guys are very tough fighters.


I'm not saying Wladimir is on par with Foreman, there is no question Foreman is one of the best heavyweights in the history of the sport.......Wladimir is still making his mark on the division