Most overated boxing champ ever

[CutMeMick]

Julio Caesar Chavez, the president and CEO of bum beaters.

You must not like many boxers from the past eras as most boxers fought whomever and whenever.....

I've made this debate before with MANY people and I always say the same way fighters loose early in their careers like Hopkins, Arguello the Marquez brothers JCC could have also lost that same way but he didn't....

I wont debate the quality of his opponents cause the facts are there but I will debate you smashing him like hes the only fighter in history to have build up a career this way especially in the time he fought....

I've said it before thats fine take away 35 fights (as most people that I've debated with somehow have determined thats the amount of 'bums' he faced) and his record still stands at 73-6-2 better then almost any fighter from his time with some great names on his resume. For the sake of your argument I'll leave his loses to Wise & Wiley on his record (eventhough they fall under your 'bum' category.

So now that we cut his career down and took off those 35 wins, his career is still there. It's funny though cause if you take many fighters records from the past eras you can easily point out fighters had 20-30 fights against what your calling 'bums'..... Don't belive me check the records; Duran, Arguello, Olivares, Jorge F. Castro, Jose L. Ramirez..... But these fighters also have great names Pernell, SRL, RJJ to name a few....

When you come out and label him as the 'Bum beater you pretty much, drag a S*** load of other names with his' (if you would measure them with the same stick)

The title of this thread isn't 'Name as many overrated champs as you can think of.'
It's 'Most overrated boxing champ ever.'
Chavez takes the cake amigo, like it or not.
sorry

Great debate and loved the way you backed it up.

The title of this thread isn't 'Name as many overrated champs as you can think of.'

It's 'Most overrated boxing champ ever.'

Chavez takes the cake amigo, like it or not.

sorry

No way Chavez was more overrated than Wonjongkam.

The fact that he even stepped in the ring with ODLH, Meldrick Taylor, Sweet Pea, Hector Camacho etc.
puts him miles ahead on Pongsaklek.

Spot on killersheep.

I am a big Chavez fan. He was a great fighter but he has be called the greatest mexican fighter of all time and he was hugely popular. He may have been a tad overrated becase of all that. He wasnt unbeatable but he was a great fighter. Im kind of torn on this one

Thats cool, BoomBoom I was only debating the fact that he called JCC 'the bum beater' I wasn't even on Samson3000 about the overrated thing....

For the record I refuse to recognize that fighter who holds the WBC strap at Flyweight and there for I will not even mention his name anymore.

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam