how to excute the shoulder roll to a good standard any ideas??

[Tito BHB]

Floyd only uses it when boxers try to throw hooks and flurries...he is far better than Toney with the shoulder roll.

I wouldnt recommend you really trying to add it into your fight game if you are truely serious...because it is pretty tricky.You have to have great reflexes...if not,your gonna get hit with hooks and any other body shots.It is also kind of difficult to throw punches from this position.

Floyd is better then toney with the shoulder roll!!>??

Weerrttt?... Maybe better then a heavyweight fat toney.. But middle/supermiddleweight toney is way better with the old school shoulder roll defence then floyd ..Floyd seldom uses it anyway..And seldom needs to use it.. the only times he has really depended on it is when he has felt comfortable in a bout and doesnt feel in danger of getting hit..I.e Ndou, gatti ( Mainly foot movement anyway) and corley when he fancied a shoulder to shoulder scrap..

Toney has always used the old school defence and when hes fit is supreme with it..

Count punches landed on Floyd compared to those landed on Toney....its not even close.Its a DEFENSIVE tactic...so of course Floyd doesnt need it every round.He can rely on his ring awareness and footwork.The shoulder parry has been in the Mayweather family a while...they have almost mastered it.Who taught it to Toney?lol

Im not entirely certain that its the fact that floyd doesnt need to use it every round..
I dont feel he uses it in even every fight ..To take a round or so off..
He only uses it against certain opponents..His thing is pot shotting and fast and great feet..

Im also not entirely sure on who james' trainer was at the time..
But hes a huge fan of all the old school fighters and learnt from continuously watching tapes of moore, charles, walcott and putting it to practice..

The old fighters are the only fighters ive ever heard toney speak of in a nice manner or actually admit he likes them or respects them..

When it comes to todays or most other past fighters all you get from him is i dont respect nobody, theyr all ducking me ..lol
James toney's favourite fighter is james toney :P

Small talk aside though..Its a beautiful style no doubt