Manfredo inspired by Raging Bull

[Gandalf]

i must be the only Boxing Fan in the world who thinks Raging Bull was load a shite .

The fights scenes were utter S*** De Niro was a big fat plum and Joe Pesci played Tommy De Vito from Goodfellas ..........so what !?

Black and white motion picture documenting one of the most overated fighters of all time.

If i met Robert De Niro id ask him to play a role where he isint Robert De Niro doing what Robert De Niro always does ie sneer at the camera with a dramatic pause .

your an idiot. de niro is probably the best actor of our era mate.
he had to put on crazy amounts of weight to play the fat la mota. and he had to live like a fighter to play young lamota. he had amature fights to get into the role properly. he actually worked as a new york cab driver for some weeks ot prepare for taxi driver. he had his teeth filed down to almost fangs to look creepy in cape fear. bobby deniro is a legend.
any any fighter that manages to beat sugar ray robbinson in his prime is hardly over rated mate.

CC for you. That's what I was saying, only less eloquently. My urge to call Gordy a gay pirate just got the best of me. I apologize. lol

Can you please tell me what is so good about watching De Niro play an average Mob controlled fighter ?

Also please for god sake explain to me what makes De Niro such a great actor ?

He plays the same person in every single film and the 'Mob Mentality ' that controls Holywood are afraid to disaggree !!

The fight scenes were some of the worst ever the cuts look like they were inflicted by an ice pick and to say that De Niro was a good boxer actor is a slur to every fighter that ever lived even the choreagraphed fight scenes he moves like he's got a Ferret crawling up his a*** !!

De Niro is the second most overated human being after Emmanuel Steward .

If you want to see a great performence full of emotion watch Forrest Whittaker in ' king of scotland ' or Gary Oldman in Dracula now they are good actors compare that with RDN in Frankenstien i honestly thought it was a comedy .

Watching Robert De Niro is like listening to the Lighthouse Family or watching Ainsley Harriot cook .

He plays the part convincingly. Jake LaMotta would be the first to admit that he is not Joyce nor Shakespeare. DeNiro convincingly portrays a selfish, chauvanistic, crude and angry man who also happened to give a lot of great fights and who even managed to beat a prime SRR. Looking and acting somewhat emotionally stunted and looking a bit mean and moody is part of having the character down pretty well.

Im not going into a defence of DeNiro as an actor but he has certainly played a number of great roles. Taxi driver, Goodfellas and the second Godfather spring readily to mind. If you are looking for overt sentimentality and a good old weep then these roles will not be to your taste.

The fight scenes in Raging Bull are not about showing boxing reality. They are almost choreographed pieces and are designed to appeal to those approaching the movie as a piece of expression and not as a reflection of a live fight per se. And what is the definition of a "good boxing actor" exactly? You lost me there!

Gary Oldman can be a good actor but his role in Dracula is hardly something that inspires. DeNiro was crap in Frankenstein too as you rightly pointed out.

Watching DeNiro is more akind to listening to Lou Reed than the Lighthouse family. The early stuff sizzles with life whereas the latter stuff blows more hot and cold but has its good points.

[CutMeMick]

Funny thread really.....

I mean he could be inspired by the holy spirit if he wishes too ain't nothing gonna help him out come Sat. night......

[Gandalf]

i must be the only Boxing Fan in the world who thinks Raging Bull was load a shite .

The fights scenes were utter S*** De Niro was a big fat plum and Joe Pesci played Tommy De Vito from Goodfellas ..........so what !?

Black and white motion picture documenting one of the most overated fighters of all time.

If i met Robert De Niro id ask him to play a role where he isint Robert De Niro doing what Robert De Niro always does ie sneer at the camera with a dramatic pause .

your an idiot. de niro is probably the best actor of our era mate.
he had to put on crazy amounts of weight to play the fat la mota. and he had to live like a fighter to play young lamota. he had amature fights to get into the role properly. he actually worked as a new york cab driver for some weeks ot prepare for taxi driver. he had his teeth filed down to almost fangs to look creepy in cape fear. bobby deniro is a legend.
any any fighter that manages to beat sugar ray robbinson in his prime is hardly over rated mate.

CC for you. That's what I was saying, only less eloquently. My urge to call Gordy a gay pirate just got the best of me. I apologize. lol

Can you please tell me what is so good about watching De Niro play an average Mob controlled fighter ?

Also please for god sake explain to me what makes De Niro such a great actor ?

He plays the same person in every single film and the 'Mob Mentality ' that controls Holywood are afraid to disaggree !!

The fight scenes were some of the worst ever the cuts look like they were inflicted by an ice pick and to say that De Niro was a good boxer actor is a slur to every fighter that ever lived even the choreagraphed fight scenes he moves like he's got a Ferret crawling up his a*** !!

De Niro is the second most overated human being after Emmanuel Steward .

If you want to see a great performence full of emotion watch Forrest Whittaker in ' king of scotland ' or Gary Oldman in Dracula now they are good actors compare that with RDN in Frankenstien i honestly thought it was a comedy .

Watching Robert De Niro is like listening to the Lighthouse Family or watching Ainsley Harriot cook .

He plays the part convincingly. Jake LaMotta would be the first to admit that he is not Joyce nor Shakespeare. DeNiro convincingly portrays a selfish, chauvanistic, crude and angry man who also happened to give a lot of great fights and who even managed to beat a prime SRR. Looking and acting somewhat emotionally stunted and looking a bit mean and moody is part of having the character down pretty well.

Im not going into a defence of DeNiro as an actor but he has certainly played a number of great roles. Taxi driver, Goodfellas and the second Godfather spring readily to mind. If you are looking for overt sentimentality and a good old weep then these roles will not be to your taste.

The fight scenes in Raging Bull are not about showing boxing reality. They are almost choreographed pieces and are designed to appeal to those approaching the movie as a piece of expression and not as a reflection of a live fight per se. And what is the definition of a "good boxing actor" exactly? You lost me there!

Gary Oldman can be a good actor but his role in Dracula is hardly something that inspires. DeNiro was crap in Frankenstein too as you rightly pointed out.

Watching DeNiro is more akind to listening to Lou Reed than the Lighthouse family. The early stuff sizzles with life whereas the latter stuff blows more hot and cold but has its good points.

And thanks for the sad click Mr SwishySwashy!!

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

Miles you've proved yourself a gentleman !!!



I like it when somebody can comeback at me an make a point

As for RDN what can you say he is badly flawed and limited as an actor Raging Bull was in my honest humble opinion one of the most overrated bits of cinema ever !

You mention the choreagraphed scenes as a piece of expression not a refelection per se and I'd agree but in live time the fight scenes were poor maybe you've got me there , the knockout scenes for example more a depiction of a state of mind and his inner psyche and maybe i approached it with the wrong state of mind being a boxing fan and not a Lamotta fan , but it certainly was needlessly over gratuitous,amatuerish and unrealistc.

Too me honestly it stank of a 6 week intrest .


it certainly seemed to be taking itself seriously as a boxing film and for me a real turn off .

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

i must be the only Boxing Fan in the world who thinks Raging Bull was load a shite .

The fights scenes were utter S*** De Niro was a big fat plum and Joe Pesci played Tommy De Vito from Goodfellas ..........so what !?

Black and white motion picture documenting one of the most overated fighters of all time.

If i met Robert De Niro id ask him to play a role where he isint Robert De Niro doing what Robert De Niro always does ie sneer at the camera with a dramatic pause .

your an idiot. de niro is probably the best actor of our era mate.
he had to put on crazy amounts of weight to play the fat la mota. and he had to live like a fighter to play young lamota. he had amature fights to get into the role properly. he actually worked as a new york cab driver for some weeks ot prepare for taxi driver. he had his teeth filed down to almost fangs to look creepy in cape fear. bobby deniro is a legend.
any any fighter that manages to beat sugar ray robbinson in his prime is hardly over rated mate.

CC for you. That's what I was saying, only less eloquently. My urge to call Gordy a gay pirate just got the best of me. I apologize. lol

Can you please tell me what is so good about watching De Niro play an average Mob controlled fighter ?

Also please for god sake explain to me what makes De Niro such a great actor ?

He plays the same person in every single film and the 'Mob Mentality ' that controls Holywood are afraid to disaggree !!

The fight scenes were some of the worst ever the cuts look like they were inflicted by an ice pick and to say that De Niro was a good boxer actor is a slur to every fighter that ever lived even the choreagraphed fight scenes he moves like he's got a Ferret crawling up his a*** !!

De Niro is the second most overated human being after Emmanuel Steward .

If you want to see a great performence full of emotion watch Forrest Whittaker in ' king of scotland ' or Gary Oldman in Dracula now they are good actors compare that with RDN in Frankenstien i honestly thought it was a comedy .

Watching Robert De Niro is like listening to the Lighthouse Family or watching Ainsley Harriot cook .

He plays the part convincingly. Jake LaMotta would be the first to admit that he is not Joyce nor Shakespeare. DeNiro convincingly portrays a selfish, chauvanistic, crude and angry man who also happened to give a lot of great fights and who even managed to beat a prime SRR. Looking and acting somewhat emotionally stunted and looking a bit mean and moody is part of having the character down pretty well.

Im not going into a defence of DeNiro as an actor but he has certainly played a number of great roles. Taxi driver, Goodfellas and the second Godfather spring readily to mind. If you are looking for overt sentimentality and a good old weep then these roles will not be to your taste.

The fight scenes in Raging Bull are not about showing boxing reality. They are almost choreographed pieces and are designed to appeal to those approaching the movie as a piece of expression and not as a reflection of a live fight per se. And what is the definition of a "good boxing actor" exactly? You lost me there!

Gary Oldman can be a good actor but his role in Dracula is hardly something that inspires. DeNiro was crap in Frankenstein too as you rightly pointed out.

Watching DeNiro is more akind to listening to Lou Reed than the Lighthouse family. The early stuff sizzles with life whereas the latter stuff blows more hot and cold but has its good points.

And thanks for the sad click Mr SwishySwashy!!

Sad click ? Ive never bothered with them myself try reading the above post

[Gandalf]

Miles you've proved yourself a gentleman !!!



I like it when somebody can comeback at me an make a point

As for RDN what can you say he is badly flawed and limited as an actor Raging Bull was in my honest humble opinion one of the most overrated bits of cinema ever !

You mention the choreagraphed scenes as a piece of expression not a refelection per se and I'd agree but in live time the fight scenes were poor maybe you've got me there , the knockout scenes for example more a depiction of a state of mind and his inner psyche and maybe i approached it with the wrong state of mind being a boxing fan and not a Lamotta fan , but it certainly was needlessly over gratuitous,amatuerish and unrealistc.

Too me honestly it stank of a 6 week intrest .


it certainly seemed to be taking itself seriously as a boxing film and for me a real turn off .

If Raging Bull is so poor as you percieve it to be then I would be more than interested to know what you regard as a good movie. Dracula is really no comparison. I really dont understand what you think is so overrated about Raging Bull. Its well shot, its story is intriguing and overall its well acted.

The St Valentines day massacre is called so for good reason....it needs to be a little gratuitous...

And as for the sad click. Thats fine with me

[SigmaMu]

Fudge that movie but to each his or her own.

When Peduh runs outta gas!

[global]

I can just picture Manfredo at the end grinning saying you couldn't knock me out Joe. As if that were his best case scenario.

[Hulk]

i must be the only Boxing Fan in the world who thinks Raging Bull was load a shite .

The fights scenes were utter shit De Niro was a big fat plum and Joe Pesci played Tommy De Vito from Goodfellas ..........so what !?

Black and white motion picture documenting one of the most overated fighters of all time.

If i met Robert De Niro id ask him to play a role where he isint Robert De Niro doing what Robert De Niro always does ie sneer at the camera with a dramatic pause .

The movie was stupid as the day is long.

Again with the photoshop?!