NO training with a boxing coach doesnt make you world class...but it was brought up that Quinton had no amatuer background.For you to say every MMA fighter has a boxing coach...I gurantee that none are on Rogers level.The topic was about Chuck fighting a HEAVYWEIGHT.I said that Chuck couldnt beat Quinton because he wasnt a better "striker".FYI I said Chucks wrestling skills werent dominant not that he didnt have any...so dont start talking out of the azz.SO WHAT if Chuck got fatigued!Should they have stopped the fight and gave him a 10min breather to make it fair?He got dominated by Quinton...so what do you think is gonna happen if he got in there with a heavyweight and couldnt take the fight to the ground?They KO people with 10-12 oz gloves.