smoking joe... frazier

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only ever lost to foreman and ali, and i think only ever knocked down by foreman?

how would joe of done vs other greats

holmes
liston
rocky m
lewis
tyson
dempsy
louis

his record may not be that impressive ( 32-4) i think
but still i think he does deserve to be in peoples top ten heavys of all time
opinons?

Holmes out points Frazier with that famous jab.

Liston vs Frazier would be slugfest but Frazier extra heart and will would be factor stopping Liston in 10.

Rocky is stopped on cuts Frazier's bobbing and weaving style too much for Rocky.

Lewis should outpoint Frazier unless Frazier gets lucky punch would very well could happen.

Tyson would floor Frazier in early going but once he warms up he takes Tyson's punches and outguts Tyson to stop him in 9th or 10th.

Dempsey too small for Fraizer and Fraizer's bobbing and weaving style too much and he stops Dempsey on his feet in 10th.

Louis's chin wasn't that great and he is too flatfooted which wouldn't be good vs someone like Frazier i think Frazier could ko him in middle rounds.

I think you are being a bit hard on old Liston there. In his prime had all the heart in the world.He fought 1 of his early fights with a broken jaw.

Peolpe tend to judge Liston just on his fights with Ali and somtimes his fights with Patterson.

He was an all roung compleat fighter who was unlucky enough to face Ali in his prime.

Good statement Mr Porky i did forget how good Liston was with his Jab and other things he could maybe win decision but really and truthfully i don't see Liston using his jab i see this as toe to toe war with Frazier edging because of his bigger heart imo.