Why De La Hoya Won't Win...

[Hairdoo]

Great read if your backing PBF!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10536&more=1

[TheBESTP4P]

Great read if your backing PBF!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10536&more=1

CC 186 bro! interesting REAL TALK there

[Hairdoo]

Great read if your backing PBF!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10536&more=1

CC 186 bro! interesting REAL TALK there

especially the weight issue... I hadn't looked at it that way.

I think Mosley as a sparring partner for Oscar is a very important element. "I'm probably the closest thing fighting to Mayweather right now, so it will be a good advantage for Oscar to work with me. I will get some fight tapes and study Mayweather and his style. I will be able to imitate him and help Oscar dismantle Mayweather." "This is for Oscar's benefit. I will not try to outshine Oscar because this is not about me. I'm going to do what I can do to imitate Mayweather. I will make it difficult for Oscar to hit me, like Mayweather will."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2792836


According to Mosley him and Mayweather have had a lot of the same sparring partners and they told Shane that he is faster!!

http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/ind...howtopic=99644

[Hairdoo]

I'll just bump this up once for the Saddoboxing contingant of Floyd's Fan Cub

[Bookkeeper]

I'll just bump this up once for the Saddoboxing contingant of Floyd's Fan Cub

I am not in the Floyd fanclub, but I am in the fuck Oscar club. But as we get closer to the fight I am getting nervous, Oscar looked super sharp against Mayorga.

[Hairdoo]

I'll just bump this up once for the Saddoboxing contingant of Floyd's Fan Cub

I am not in the Floyd fanclub, but I am in the F*** Oscar club. But as we get closer to the fight I am getting nervous, Oscar looked super sharp against Mayorga.

Against Mayorga that doesn't count for much though. All I took out of that fight was that Oscar was letting both hands go. He moved straight forward and looked easy to hit.

[Bookkeeper]

I'll just bump this up once for the Saddoboxing contingant of Floyd's Fan Cub

I am not in the Floyd fanclub, but I am in the F*** Oscar club. But as we get closer to the fight I am getting nervous, Oscar looked super sharp against Mayorga.

Against Mayorga that doesn't count for much though. All I took out of that fight was that Oscar was letting both hands go. He moved straight forward and looked easy to hit.

Very true. I thought Mayorga was shot after Trinidad but that does not take away the fact that Oscar was walking through his punches, he showed Mayorga's power no respect at all, shot or not Mayorga hits harder than PBF. But Oscar will come no where close to hitting PBF as much as he did Vargas.

[Hairdoo]

I'll just bump this up once for the Saddoboxing contingant of Floyd's Fan Cub

I am not in the Floyd fanclub, but I am in the F*** Oscar club. But as we get closer to the fight I am getting nervous, Oscar looked super sharp against Mayorga.

Against Mayorga that doesn't count for much though. All I took out of that fight was that Oscar was letting both hands go. He moved straight forward and looked easy to hit.

Very true. I thought Mayorga was shot after Trinidad but that does not take away the fact that Oscar was walking through his punches, he showed Mayorga's power no respect at all, shot or not Mayorga hits harder than PBF. But Oscar will come no where close to hitting PBF as much as he did Vargas.

The outcome might be determined by the effectiveness of Oscar's jab. We saw how well it nullified Mosley's speed in their second fight.

[TheBESTP4P]

true, but theres a couple angles one must view this upcoming fight, i do agree there are various similiarities to SSM vs oscar as well, but. SSM vs Oscar was fight in which both of these guys was in their PRIME PRIME and both brought it that night! Oscar is in no way near in the same form as he was when he fought SSM that night.

also another factor which we can not determine at this time is that SSM was strong/powerful/fast enough to dominate Oscar. we know PBF is def faster than oscar, but we'll he have the power to dominate Oscar as SSM did? will Oscar be able to walk thru or atleast eat PBF's best? i think thats what will make it interesting and we'll have to plainly wait and see on that one?

[Kev]

Great read if your backing PBF!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10536&more=1

CC 186 bro! interesting REAL TALK there

especially the weight issue... I hadn't looked at it that way.

I think Mosley as a sparring partner for Oscar is a very important element. "I'm probably the closest thing fighting to Mayweather right now, so it will be a good advantage for Oscar to work with me. I will get some fight tapes and study Mayweather and his style. I will be able to imitate him and help Oscar dismantle Mayweather." "This is for Oscar's benefit. I will not try to outshine Oscar because this is not about me. I'm going to do what I can do to imitate Mayweather. I will make it difficult for Oscar to hit me, like Mayweather will."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2792836


According to Mosley him and Mayweather have had a lot of the same sparring partners and they told Shane that he is faster!!

http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/ind...howtopic=99644

The weight issue is complete crap imo. Mayweather is NOT bigger than De La Hoya, thats the stupidiest thing I've ever heard!

FLoyd is 5 ft 7 1/2 , Oscar is getting on for 5 ft 11 in so I suppose Mayweather has naturally heavier bones as well then does he

Oscar weighing 165 lbs is right where he wants to be. He's already at his weight limit now, a hard workout in a sweat suit and a skipped meal prior to the weigh in will have him comfortably stepping onto the scales at 154 lb or less.

He will then rehydrate and come into the fight at about 170 lbs around 10 lbs heavier than Floyd on the night, perfect planning.

I still don't think he will win as Floyd is just the better boxer but it will have absolutely nothing at all to do with Floyd having more lean muscle tissue or being the naturally bigger man

[TheBESTP4P]

bilbo my boy, u really think lean muscle aint that big of a factor huh? u obviously dont recall Oscar's "LEAN" muscle when he fought Sturm then LOL

[Kev]

bilbo my boy, u really think lean muscle aint that big of a factor huh? u obviously dont recall Oscar's "LEAN" muscle when he fought Sturm then LOL

Lol,

Yeah but there is a difference in being musclar and just being plain out of shape; Oscar wasn't at anywhere near his physical best for the Sturm fight, he looked..well not as bad as James Toney but a bit of a porker certainly.

He's going to be totally in shape for the Mayweather fight. Whether he has less muscle than Floyd is completely and utterly irrelevent.

Jeff Lacy had more lean muscle than anyone at 168 but it did nothing at all for him against Calzaghe, who to my eyes at least has virtually no muscle whatsoever.

Oscar WILL be bigger and stonger than Mayweather on fight night, whether his lean muscle mass index is lower or not.

It still won't make a difference imo but honestly anyone who thinks Floyd will win based on some bullshit purely subjective visual guess that he is naturally more muscular is just a moron.

If that was the case then K9 Bundrage should clean up in his division within the year and porky looking Miguel Cotto should be absolutely outclassed and destroyed by the far more ripped Zab Judah when they fight later in the year

[Hairdoo]

bilbo my boy, u really think lean muscle aint that big of a factor huh? u obviously dont recall Oscar's "LEAN" muscle when he fought Sturm then LOL

It still won't make a difference imo but honestly anyone who thinks Floyd will win based on some bullshit purely subjective visual guess that he is naturally more muscular is just a moron.

Bilbo are you guilty of commenting on a topic without reading the full article?

[Hairdoo]

will Oscar be able to walk thru or atleast eat PBF's best?

there is no doubt in my mind at all!!. If Floyd is so talented at 147 he would of caught and hurt Zab.

[Taeth]

Great read if your backing PBF!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10536&more=1

CC 186 bro! interesting REAL TALK there

especially the weight issue... I hadn't looked at it that way.

I think Mosley as a sparring partner for Oscar is a very important element. "I'm probably the closest thing fighting to Mayweather right now, so it will be a good advantage for Oscar to work with me. I will get some fight tapes and study Mayweather and his style. I will be able to imitate him and help Oscar dismantle Mayweather." "This is for Oscar's benefit. I will not try to outshine Oscar because this is not about me. I'm going to do what I can do to imitate Mayweather. I will make it difficult for Oscar to hit me, like Mayweather will."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2792836


According to Mosley him and Mayweather have had a lot of the same sparring partners and they told Shane that he is faster!!

http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/ind...howtopic=99644

Yeah can Mosley give a name of one of those sparring partners? There is no way Mosley is faster than Mayweather especially now. Also Mosley can't box like Mayweather, but I agree his speed will help prepare Oscar for FLoyd's.