smoking joe... frazier

[undefeated]

only ever lost to foreman and ali, and i think only ever knocked down by foreman and bonavena?

how would joe of done vs other greats

holmes
liston
rocky m
lewis
tyson
dempsy
louis

his record may not be that impressive ( 32-4) i think
but still i think he does deserve to be in peoples top ten heavys of all time
opinons?

-the frazier that beat ali(prime)--could beat holmes--he would wear holmes down and late ko---ali is better than holmes--so if he could beat ali then he can beat holmes

-tough one i say liston --late stoppage

these 2 are like machines -it would b a war w/rocky --could go either way--rockys right vs fraziers left

-frazier would easily dismantle lewis
-tyson would ko frazier in 8
-frazier would take what dempesy could dish out then ko dempsy in 13

would b 2 much for louis--ko louis in 12

I disagree with Frazier vs Holmes Ali fought Frazier different by mostly staying on ropes and Holmes don't fight like that and did you see 2nd fight how he quite comfortably outpointed Joe by sticking and moving ?? thats how Holmes would win.

that is true --however frazier was no longer at his prime during ali-frazier 2---that frazier was just not the same --he lost his knack. the frazier during the first bout was a champion in his prime--frazier during the second bout was a contender past his prime. the frazier that beat ali the first time would wear holmes down then ko his ass by late stoppage. ali was an overall better fighter than holmes--so 1971 frazier would give holmes a whupping -but a 1974 frazier would get a whupping