Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Holmes couldn't take the pressure or the power for a full 15....Holmes had more power than Ali but he wasn't as good or as fast.



Wow AYALA....there's ONE example....you still haven't sold me on Louis using it
Heres another
Liston
Dude it was another era
Louis should have never come back,he did it for money,mainly to feed the feds and drugs
Nobody knew how bad those drugs were at the time
Let alone champs who are getting it for free,just for the champ