That's true but at the same time, some decades removed from both Ali and Mayes, I hear about Ali conquering Liston, Foreman and Frazier against uncertain odds long before you hear the names of Spinks, Holmes or Berbick. Willie making the basket catch at the Polo Grounds in 54 is what he is remembered for. I'm a huge Giants fan and even more of a sports fan but it took me a long while before I even knew that Mayes played for the Mets.

However, Tyson isn't going to be remembered for much more then biting Holyfield's ear off and going to prison in my opinion. At least that's how he will be first and foremost. So I get what you mean that Tyson never really got the chance to make a first impression on me but Mayes in the Mets uniform or Ali zoning out in hi8s corner against Holmes weren't really unforgettable moments, or infamous like Tyson's were.