Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Overrated? I'm not sure. Crap? Absolutely not. I think it's crazy to call anyone who's good enough to become a professional fighter "crap." Besides, how does an undefeated fighter with over 40 fights warrant the description "crap"?
Good point. Dead on the money...40+ men don't just walk into the ring & beat themselves.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Two observations, though:

One, as most everyone else has said, he desperately needs to up the quality of his opposition....... whatever it takes. If he's got to leave the U.K. to fight a Taylor or a Hopkins, DO IT. If he has to dump his blood-sucking promoter and make his own fights, DO IT. If he has to take less money than he would like to fight Kessler, DO IT. Whatever it takes. He needs to realize that the perception that he ducks good opposition is growing by the day.
Agreed again. Thing is...he'll never drop Warren...it's too late in the game & Frank owns part of Joe's soul basically.

To save face Joe should fight Kessler...but the same was said of him fighting Lacy...so if he hammers Kess the fwock out...will he gain respect?

You & I both know that he won't. Kessler will then be known as just another crap Euro paper champ or some horse shit like that & then Joe will either have to beat Taylor, Hopkins, Wright, or some other worthy fighter.

It's all bullshit in the end. No matter what Joe does...he can't win public appeal.

Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
Two, I was admittedly surprised about how "pitty-pat" his punches looked during his last flurry on Manfredo. When they showed the repeat in slow motion, I was amazed to see how some of those punches were thrown in an awkward motion (like when you pound your fist on a table) to the back of the head (not that they did any harm). Now, I know some fighters tend to lose form when they're in the middle of a flurry, but that looked pretty weird. I mean.... is that common? Am I making a big deal out of nothing?
Joe's awkward. No doubt. When he flurries like that...yeah...he's often all over the place...but the thing is...& you'll see it in his past bouts...he is effective & he does have power enough to stop his opponent.

I wouldn't say your'e making a big deal out of it...just an assestment or opinion.

Nothing wrong there.