Ice I agree to disagree, I go back aways and ken norton did not possess the skill level holyfield did he did not have as good a boxing ability nor handpseed in their. Holyfield has always risen to the occassion in big fights in which he is challenged, the public was not eager to see holyfiled face larry he actually wanted to fight mercer but was stuck when larry won. He had just beaten foreman and he did not want to take the flack for fighting another senior its a no win situation, holyfield took alot of flack before earning respect due to tyson but years later Im not 100% sure tyson would have beaten a 40 year old foreman as foreman stated many times he came back for tyson, as he comes right to you. Ice.. I totally see how holmes could win and could see holyfield winning as well, i wouldnt feel comfortable either way putting money on it, holyfield when forced to do so can box, and we certainly no larry can.