Floyd Mayweather .... i mean why ?

[ICB]

He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....

Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?

When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---


He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume

Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.

You obviously have little knowledge of a young prime Hector Camacho...or Arguello pre 140 lbs

More to do with you underrating Mayweather i see Arguello get outboxed by Pryor when he stuck and move and Pryor isn't master boxer like Mayweather and i've seen flaws in Arguello where Mayweather could beat him in other fights and Camacho was good fighter but not as skilled as Mayweather i mean Camacho got battered pillar to post by slow Chavez and also got basically shut out by Oscar im sorry he wouldn't beat Mayweather and i've seen quite a few of his fights.

The Hector Camacho who fought Chavez was not a prime Camacho....It was not the version of Camacho who wore the lightweight title...So by using Chavez as an example you answered the question on how much you know of Hector Camacho Sr....And the fact you used Chavez tells me what years of Camacho you have seen...The lightweight Version of Camacho was faster then Floyd Mayweather JR....Hit harder and had a mean streak...Since you seem to think your what is it 17 or 18 years in life makes you such an expert I'll let you explain why and in which fight Camacho turned from the agressive master boxer to the hit and run suspect...
Your a good poster ICB and you have a lot of boxing knowledge but it is all based on recent fighters and comparisons are often made using great fighters past their best days

Thats fair enough mate I'll watch some Lightweight footage of him and get back to you for good debate im off now.

peace.

[DaxxKahn]

Whitaker Floyd 50-50? NO WAY! Pernell would beat Floyd's a**!Hearns would have battered him,Leonard would have been too much. I have little knowledge on Camacho when he was younger so fill me in on that Daxx.

At one point and time Camach was an aggressive puncher...In plain old english Hector was just MEAN...as with many young fighters we have seen throughout history always trying to prove a point....Well in one fight Hector was fighting a top ranked opp who I will not name because ICB is an expert who has seen enough of Camacho's fights to know everything about him....Or at least certain enough to know he would have no chance against Floyd Mayweather...
OK enough sarcasim.....Point is Hector was a top prospect and hopes for him were high...as with many weigh in's and pre fight hoopla and trash talk bad blood was built....Camacho took it too far and punished the fighter in the ring....And again I stress it was a very capable fighter at the time.....instaed of finishing it like a true warrior and letting things be...Camacho decided he wanted revenge so everytime he had the guy where he wanted him he would let up enough to let the guy gain some compsure and recoup between rds....This was something that had no bearing on looking good for the crowd or showboating it was pure intent...
When all was over the man was never the same again and to this day suffers from the beating Camacho gave him....This was a time when fights did not get stopped like they did now a days...There was no there will always be a tommorow safety first policy....
After seing what he had done Hector never went after an opponent like he did that night again...and that version of Hector Camacho was not the one most people know today...There was a time Hector not only was fast as lightning but liked to go at it... He was not a run around the ring type guy....

Here is a hint...look up Camacho's record on boxrec...take notice on when his KO and TKO's stopped coming on a regular basis





Who ever can figure it out and post a link to the fight or at least a clip...will get CC's on me for two weeks straight......The come talk to me about Hector Camacho and Flod Mayweather going toe to toe with him during his prime

[DaxxKahn]

He is a pompus little a** who is skilled as they come but also came along in the right era.....If this was 1985 Floyd Mayweather would be just another fighter...I don't care what anyone says.....

Would you mind listing the fighters between 130 and 147 pounds who would have been better than Floyd in 1985?

When I say 1985 I refer to it as an about so if you want to get technical we will say from 1980-1988---


He would not have out boxed Hecto Camacho,,,Camacho would have frustrated Floyd,,,Aaron Pryor would have Ko'd him...Leonard would have beat him,,Hearns,,Arguello,,Whitaker,,,need I go on.....Everey single one of them would wipe thier a** with Floyds resume

Floyd would beat Arguello and Camacho and Whitaker fight would be 50/50 but Pryor and Hearns would beat him though.

You obviously have little knowledge of a young prime Hector Camacho...or Arguello pre 140 lbs

More to do with you underrating Mayweather i see Arguello get outboxed by Pryor when he stuck and move and Pryor isn't master boxer like Mayweather and i've seen flaws in Arguello where Mayweather could beat him in other fights and Camacho was good fighter but not as skilled as Mayweather i mean Camacho got battered pillar to post by slow Chavez and also got basically shut out by Oscar im sorry he wouldn't beat Mayweather and i've seen quite a few of his fights.

The Hector Camacho who fought Chavez was not a prime Camacho....It was not the version of Camacho who wore the lightweight title...So by using Chavez as an example you answered the question on how much you know of Hector Camacho Sr....And the fact you used Chavez tells me what years of Camacho you have seen...The lightweight Version of Camacho was faster then Floyd Mayweather JR....Hit harder and had a mean streak...Since you seem to think your what is it 17 or 18 years in life makes you such an expert I'll let you explain why and in which fight Camacho turned from the agressive master boxer to the hit and run suspect...
Your a good poster ICB and you have a lot of boxing knowledge but it is all based on recent fighters and comparisons are often made using great fighters past their best days

Thats fair enough mate I'll watch some Lightweight footage of him and get back to you for good debate im off now.

peace.

CC back and I owe you one in 24 for not turning it into a grudge and keeping it a debate

[dezmundo1983]

ODLH will struggle at first to get past PBFL speed but dont forget oscar is no slouch, I think oscar will start grinding floyd down with snappy counters over the top then dance away, then come on strong in the latter stages to record a 10th round stoppage! Floyd will be left crying like a baby!

[Hairdoo]

He's selling himself.
He consciously knows the sport needs characters.
And he's trying his damned hardest to create a persona. Create buzz for himself and for the sport.
And he's doing it.
It's much more exciting to see a fight of good guy vs bad guy rather than one good guy vs another pretty good guy.
So he chose to be the bad guy and embellishes it as much as he can at every opportune time.
It's certainly causes a LOT of buzz. Making Oscar's fans wish they knock his a** out even more.
And even boxing fans who were for neither of the fighters, a lot of them are tuning in wanting to see Oscar win just because Floyd's talking so much.
He's become a great salesman.

Remember early on in Floyd's career when he was winning fight after fight but he wasn't getting a lot of recognition outside of the sport because he just wasn't a dnamic enough personality?
Well, he's arrived as a personality now.
So people will tune in because they love him, or they'll tune in to see him get his a** beat.
The fact is, people will tune in.
And that's the goal.


Oh, and Floyd TKO in the 9th

You're giving Floyd way too much credit. I think it's much more likely that he's just a delusional jackass that has bought in all the hype created for him and has gotten completely out of control.

BTW, you can still get 40-1 in Vegas on an ODLH win by 2nd round ko. Now that's good money!

You'll get 90-1 for ODLH to win by 2nd rd KO at 5dimes. Now that's better money!!

[Unknowndonor]

Camacho would never beat Floyd. Someone is smoking too much. Sorry, but I've seen alot of Camacho's fights, and he wouldn't beat Floyd.

Besides, Aaron Pryor is who you should be talking about, since Camacho, Leonard and Company ALL ducked him.

[althetruthhindley]

Camacho would never beat Floyd. Someone is smoking too much. Sorry, but I've seen alot of Camacho's fights, and he wouldn't beat Floyd.

Besides, Aaron Pryor is who you should be talking about, since Camacho, Leonard and Company ALL ducked him.

i have to agree with this Macho Camacho was over rated and wouldnt beat Mayweather,
but at welter i would love to see my idol Thomas Hearns drop his bombs on Mayweather and shut his mouth
Hearns KO 4

[ICB]

Camacho would never beat Floyd. Someone is smoking too much. Sorry, but I've seen alot of Camacho's fights, and he wouldn't beat Floyd.

Besides, Aaron Pryor is who you should be talking about, since Camacho, Leonard and Company ALL ducked him.

i have to agree with this Macho Camacho was over rated and wouldnt beat Mayweather,
but at welter i would love to see my idol Thomas Hearns drop his bombs on Mayweather and shut his mouth
Hearns KO 4

Yea Thomas Hearns would be worst style match up for Floyd.

[DaxxKahn]

Camacho would never beat Floyd. Someone is smoking too much. Sorry, but I've seen alot of Camacho's fights, and he wouldn't beat Floyd.

Besides, Aaron Pryor is who you should be talking about, since Camacho, Leonard and Company ALL ducked him.

i have to agree with this Macho Camacho was over rated and wouldnt beat Mayweather,
but at welter i would love to see my idol Thomas Hearns drop his bombs on Mayweather and shut his mouth
Hearns KO 4

Yea Thomas Hearns would be worst style match up for Floyd.

At 147 Hearns is a bad amtch up for anyone....Tommy was a freak of nature at that weight....His right hand could end it at anytime no matter who you are if caught flush....and Tommy had some of the most underratted boxing skills of that generation

[ICB]

Camacho would never beat Floyd. Someone is smoking too much. Sorry, but I've seen alot of Camacho's fights, and he wouldn't beat Floyd.

Besides, Aaron Pryor is who you should be talking about, since Camacho, Leonard and Company ALL ducked him.

i have to agree with this Macho Camacho was over rated and wouldnt beat Mayweather,
but at welter i would love to see my idol Thomas Hearns drop his bombs on Mayweather and shut his mouth
Hearns KO 4

Yea Thomas Hearns would be worst style match up for Floyd.

At 147 Hearns is a bad amtch up for anyone....Tommy was a freak of nature at that weight....His right hand could end it at anytime no matter who you are if caught flush....and Tommy had some of the most underratted boxing skills of that generation

Agreed Thomas Hearns could box with best of them but sometimes he used to brawl when it wernt to his best advantage i used to like his jab i believe it was called flicker jab used to catch opponent off guard good technique putting left arm down near your waist then throw jab sharp and fast they don't expect because they can't watch for shoulder muscles but you have to have good reactions to do it because if your slow and put your jab arm low your going to be finding yourself on the canvas but still good technique.

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

Floyd Mayweather does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tommy Hearns , Alexis Arguello,Aaron Pryor,Chavez,Roberto Duran or Pernell Whittaker !

Sugar Ray Leonard would have fucking battered Floyd the fake and Benitez would have taken the piss out of him !!!!

Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a lobotomy .

[Majesty]

Whitaker Floyd 50-50? NO WAY! Pernell would beat Floyd's a**!Hearns would have battered him,Leonard would have been too much. I have little knowledge on Camacho when he was younger so fill me in on that Daxx.

At one point and time Camach was an aggressive puncher...In plain old english Hector was just MEAN...as with many young fighters we have seen throughout history always trying to prove a point....Well in one fight Hector was fighting a top ranked opp who I will not name because ICB is an expert who has seen enough of Camacho's fights to know everything about him....Or at least certain enough to know he would have no chance against Floyd Mayweather...
OK enough sarcasim.....Point is Hector was a top prospect and hopes for him were high...as with many weigh in's and pre fight hoopla and trash talk bad blood was built....Camacho took it too far and punished the fighter in the ring....And again I stress it was a very capable fighter at the time.....instaed of finishing it like a true warrior and letting things be...Camacho decided he wanted revenge so everytime he had the guy where he wanted him he would let up enough to let the guy gain some compsure and recoup between rds....This was something that had no bearing on looking good for the crowd or showboating it was pure intent...
When all was over the man was never the same again and to this day suffers from the beating Camacho gave him....This was a time when fights did not get stopped like they did now a days...There was no there will always be a tommorow safety first policy....
After seing what he had done Hector never went after an opponent like he did that night again...and that version of Hector Camacho was not the one most people know today...There was a time Hector not only was fast as lightning but liked to go at it... He was not a run around the ring type guy....

Here is a hint...look up Camacho's record on boxrec...take notice on when his KO and TKO's stopped coming on a regular basis





Who ever can figure it out and post a link to the fight or at least a clip...will get CC's on me for two weeks straight......The come talk to me about Hector Camacho and Flod Mayweather going toe to toe with him during his prime

Seen Camacho. Plenty of him.

And he wouldn't have beaten Floyd.

This is the same Camacho that was hit with consistant right hands from Rosario right

I give Camacho credit he was a very very good fighter in his prime, but don't underestimate how good Floyd is right now just because he talks.

Fact of the matter is Camacho never fought anyone with Floyd's style, speed, or power. And when this fellow named Rosario wouldn't go away he tagged Camacho with right hands and hurt him badly. That was the fight that took the "Macho" out of the man. It was after that when Camacho didn't want to trade anymore. And you look at boxrec after the Rosario fight and tell me that fight didn't ruin him mentally as a fighter. And if Rosario can get in his head off of one right hand. What is Mayweather going to do to him with consistant straight shots and a defense that Camacho can't and wouldn't penatrate.

And I'm not overestimating Floyd or underestimating Camacho.

But I don't see any way that Camacho could ever beat Floyd. I also don't know why you think Camacho is faster then him. Camacho was fast. Not faster then Floyd, ESPECIALLY at Lightweight.

[El Gamo]

CC Daxx. I have no idea about the answer to your question though....From the admittedly little which I have read,(and some wikipedia :P ) it said he changed his style after the Rosario fight....to avoid taking further punishment..

[TitoFan]

As he dazzles us with his sublime skills , wonderful reflexes , fighting top name opponent's,
WHY does he have to talk total trash all the time ?
He could maybe 1 day be talked about in the same way as SRL or SRR but i doubt even his biggest fans like the way he acts outside the ring.
I think the majority of people will want Oscar to win , i mean I'm not Oscar's biggest fan by any means but hes a good role model for the sport and i want him to knock Floyd out mainly because i wanna see wot he has to say after .
So guys tell me your views?
and give me your prediction, mine is

Oscar KO 9

If............. Oscar were to KO Floyd (which would cause me to drink myself into a coma), let me save you the trouble, as I know exactly what Oscar would say.

He would go over and hug Floyd (much like he did Mayorga), and tell him he's sorry, but that he had to give him that beating for his own good. Then he would offer him a position in GBP.

Or something to that effect.

[Rick_Rack]

BECAUSE FLOYD MAYWEATHER CAN TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE WALK! THATS WHY! AND HE WILL WIN THAT FIGHT AGAINST OSCAR! ! !