Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
It wasnt that tarver didnt show up..More like that tarver was given nothing to go on..The subtle defensive strategies and lateral movement left tarver following bernard around pawing with his jab like an afraid little girl and continues to get countered and jumped in on with combo's before hopkins then jumps back out of range..

Seriously i cannot make a single case in my mind of how joe could be bernard..

Joe has bad hands..Barely any power.. and bernard has never been stopped...

And when was the last time we saw joe beat a truely great boxer and great defensive counter puncher?

I'd bet on never tbf.. Hopkins would beat him every round and joe who has obv never lost would loose heart half way through as he's never been in that position and he'd eventually stumble and fall under the weight of the executioners axe
OK....well I have a similar position in a way, in that I can't see a way in which Bernard could beat Joe. Hopkins likes to come off the back foot, and despite the fact that he is a decent defensive counter puncher, I think he would still get caught more often by Calzaghe's numerous punches, which come from all angles, and Hopkins couldn't avoid it forever.

As for the question of power, Calzaghe handed Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra his first stoppage, who had previously gone 12 with Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, and has only since been stopped by world champion Zsolt Erdei. Calzaghe gave Byron Mitchell a career-ending stoppage in two rounds, despite Mitchell having only two previous defeats, both on points for world titles. And not that it is in the same league, but Manfredo had never been stopped either.

Hopkins' KO record is less than Calzaghe's, and has only finished one fight inside the distance in the last seven, so saying he would stop Calzaghe is crazy talk. Indeed, the only way Calzaghe will fall under the weight of the executioners' axe is if the axe is thrown at him from the Hopkins corner.