Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI

[jjh]

Sorry to butt in, but I have to say that I am not impressed with Lewis. He didn't even give the man that was whipping him, Klitchko a rematch like he promised him. Although Mike has been a little lackluster about his career over the past few years or so, I see he has changed a lot. For instance, he has started to at least fight whoever is out there (and went for the "best" at the time in Lewis). I mean, give him credit. He put forth an honest effort.

When Mike fought Lewis, he wasn't ready either. He was ranked 10th in the world compared to Lewis being the champion at the time. Mike wasn't ready for that fight and no doubt, Lewis did beat him even though he still had to lose points twice for hugging and holding Mike.

One of the reasons why I think that Lewis is not a fan favorite is because he is too "arrogant" and too "picky." He wants to fight who he wants, when he wants, like somebody owes him something. No one owes Lewis anything. He's no Muhammad Ali.

I haven't really read much of this thread cos everyone always starts bitching and arguing but that is a post I fully agree with mate. Sure, people will say that Tyson got loads of money for fighting Lewis but he was nowhere near gis best credit to him for getting in there- I'd never looked at it like that before.

Watching both Lewis and Tyson when they were at their best, I don't see how Lewis could have handled Tyson from the late 1980's, but that is just my opinion.

I also think Tyson would have had more success against Ali than George Foreman did- George hit him on the ropes with inaccuarte, wild shots that wasted energy- Tyson would have planted accuarte punches on Ali with speed and power- just look at the Holmes KO to try and feel what I'm saying...

[ROCKY MARSHMELLOW]

Every thing he says is wrong !!

1. he is making a point about Klitszcho again when everyone knows Lewis didn't have anything to prove after he wupped Tyson and still got a win against Klitszcho.

2. Tyson started to fight the best out there There is no way on this earth Tyson wanted that fight with Lewis, thats why he started fighting at the press conference to get it stopped. Tyson got pushed into the fight fight with Lewis off Showtime, Because Tyson owes them cash !! Tyson would never of been ready to take on Lewis. Lewis was just too good at that time !!

3. Lewis wants to fight who he wants when he wants what the fuck does that mean at least with Lewis you get him fighting the best out there unlike Tyson, fighting fucking bums for most of his career, No one owe's Lewis anything what does that mean, sounds like you think Lewis owe's Klitszcho a rematch, no he doesn't, and the fact is if Klitscho in his prime could not of beat the fat out of shape old Lewis, what chance would Klitszcho had against a prime dedicated Lewis with something to prove !!

You can go on about Tyson in his prime, but if the likes of bone crusher smith, Tony Tucker, Mitch Green, go the distance with Tyson then I cant see why the even bigger and better Lewis would have had no probs keeping Tyson under control !!

[drgoodlooking]

Every thing he says is wrong !!

1. he is making a point about Klitszcho again when everyone knows Lewis didn't have anything to prove after he wupped Tyson and still got a win against Klitszcho.

2. Tyson started to fight the best out there   There is no way on this earth Tyson wanted that fight with Lewis, thats why he started fighting at the press conference to get it stopped.  Tyson got pushed into the fight fight with Lewis off Showtime, Because Tyson owes them cash !! Tyson would never of been ready to take on Lewis.  Lewis was just too good at that time !!

3. Lewis wants to fight who he wants when he wants   what the f*** does that mean   at least with Lewis you get him fighting the best out there unlike Tyson,  fighting f***ing bums for most of his career,  No one owe's Lewis anything   what does that mean,  sounds like you think Lewis owe's Klitszcho a rematch,  no he doesn't, and the fact is if Klitscho in his prime could not of beat the fat out of shape old Lewis, what chance would Klitszcho had against a prime dedicated Lewis with something to prove !!Â

You can go on about Tyson in his prime,  but if the likes of bone crusher smith, Tony Tucker, Mitch Green, go the distance with Tyson then I cant see why the even bigger and better Lewis would have had no probs keeping Tyson under control !!

[drgoodlooking]

Well, let's see. Tyson is still around and Lewis is not. Tyson is 50-5 (44 KOs) and Lewis is 41-2 (32 KOs). Tyson still has a chance to improve his record. Tyson is active. Lewis is not. Tyson is still giving fans what they want! Lewis is retired. When Tyson lost to Lewis, he kept fighting others. When Lewis got away with a cheap victory on Klitchko, he ran away from the chance of fighting the man again (like he SAID he would do) and possibly losing. When Mike lost to Lewis, he took it like a man and said that 'It was a good fight and I'd love to do it again.'

And WHO won that fight for Lewis? Manny Stewart. He was the brains behind it all, because without such a great trainer like Stewart, I don't think Lewis would have even known how to fight Mike Tyson. Let Tyson have Manny Stewart as his trainer and I'm sure that Mike would just about destroy anyone out there right now.

Personally, I just have more respect for Mike Tyson than Lennox Lewis. When Mike behaves, he is the best thing that ever happened to boxing! Recently, Lewis said that he was going to make a comeback, but again he didn't keep his word and changed his mind. Tyson is still getting paid in boxing. Lewis is not. Therefore, I can conclude that Tyson has more "integrity" in boxing than Lewis. I think this is one of the reasons why Tyson is a "People's Champ" in the Sport of Boxing and Lewis is not. Â

[drgoodlooking]

Hey guys,

Actually, Tyson-Lewis was a very good fight if you look at it well. Mike put up a good fight early (and maybe won the first round or two) before Lewis got him tired from holding him excessively and etc - which indeed was a smart move on his part! As Lewis started to dominate the fight, it was funny hearing Manny Stewart yelling at Lewis in the corner yet. I think it was about round 7 or 8 and Stewart yells at Lewis (about being so "conservative") something like - "You better quit fooling around and get him out of here! You have a dead man in front of you! Get him out of here! This man is dangerous!! You better not f#$% around and let him get a chance to HIT You!!" Something like that - but it was funny!

I'm not hating on Lewis. It was a good fight and a well-executed strategy. Still, I can't see how someone could say that fight defined Lewis' "greatness" - beating a Mike Tyson that wasn't even a top contender in the heavyweight division at the time. It's funny how most boxers think they will become "great" if they beat "Mike Tyson!" So, Danny Williams is "great" now? Yeah, right. If anything, I think that the Tyson-Lewis fight was just a bad gamble and a bad decision on Tyson's part. He should have stuck by his original intentions and got a "few more fights" in first. Then, I predict that it would have been a better fight.

[ROCKY MARSHMELLOW]

Dr Ugly head, you really do sound like a sick and twisted Lennox Lewis hater !!

Why is a good thing Tyson is still fighting getting KOED with in 4 rounds off shit fighters like Danny Williams, Lewis finished on top, after being the most dominating champ of the last 15 years !!


Now this is the funniest thing I have ever heard, it was not Lewis that KOED Tyson it was Manny Steward, Lewis would not even know how to beat Tyson if he was not with Manny Steward, Hmmmmm well he knew how to Beat Bowe winning gold in the olympics, and the commonwelth games gold, British champion, european and commonwelth champion, world champion, all before he even spoke with Manny Steward.


LMAO, Yeah Tyson did really well against Lewis, Im a Tyson fan, and I was gutted when Tyson got beat, but i'm not a Lewis Hater, and Lewis fucking destroyed Tyson, Tyson had a ok 1st round thats it !!

OH and even the ref was against Lewis in that fight, really biased ref put Lewis has had to put up with that kind of shit off you yank fucks all through his career !!

Hey Tyson has been saying that famous a few more fight thing for years, now that Williams beat him, he wants a few fights before he gets back in with Williams, but you know what, these few fights never come, because the amount of time has between fights. He could of had 200 fights before the Lewis fight, but there is no way that he was going to win that fight against Lewis, Lewis made him look like he was in a different weight division !!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Everything RM says is true also I can vouch for Rocky's man love for Tyson, we've had many a heated discussion about him but credit where it's due he's taken the time to check out Lewis and appraise his career.

[drgoodlooking]

Everything RM says is true also I can vouch for Rocky's man love for Tyson, we've had many a heated discussion about him but credit where it's due he's taken the time to check out Lewis and appraise his career.

I've already given my input on the subject. An "active" fighter can still finish his career better than an "inactive" one. If Tyson happens to win the division again, he will become a three-time world champ. Lewis can't do that retired.

[ROCKY MARSHMELLOW]

Everything RM says is true also I can vouch for Rocky's man love for Tyson, we've had many a heated discussion about him but credit where it's due he's taken the time to check out Lewis and appraise his career.

I've already given my input on the subject. An "active" fighter can still finish his career better than an "inactive" one. If Tyson happens to win the division again, he will become a three-time world champ. Lewis can't do that retired.Â

Lewis cant become a 3 time heavyweight champion again, because he already is one you thick yank fuck.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Everything RM says is true also I can vouch for Rocky's man love for Tyson, we've had many a heated discussion about him but credit where it's due he's taken the time to check out Lewis and appraise his career.

I've already given my input on the subject. An "active" fighter can still finish his career better than an "inactive" one. If Tyson happens to win the division again, he will become a three-time world champ. Lewis can't do that retired.Â

Lewis cant become a 3 time heavyweight champion again, because he already is one you thick yank f***.Â

LOL I believe that settles it.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I've already given my input on the subject. An "active" fighter can still finish his career better than an "inactive" one. If Tyson happens to win the division again, he will become a three-time world champ. Lewis can't do that retired.Â

an active fighter can finish his career better than an inactive fighter. Well DUH by definition...inactives career is already finished.

Tyson has tarnished his name by fighting past his effectiveness. He once was now is a has-been and other fighters will look to scalp him because it's a 'name' on their record.

[ROCKY MARSHMELLOW]

Tyson aint going to be doing his legacy no favours in the next couple years, that you can count on !!

[drgoodlooking]

Here, Missy for butting in.



That's you in the front and me in the back.

[drgoodlooking]

Yeah, I agree. More people like Tyson more than Lewis. That's why he gets paid more.

[ROCKY MARSHMELLOW]

Well check Lewis's bank balance out, then check Tyson's, then check how much Tyson got paid for his last fight, check out how much Lewis got paid for his last fight !!

Lewis is getting offered $50 million to come back, Tyson is getting paid 2 and half for his next fight, So once again you are making silly comments that you cant back up !!