Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


This is like my fricking fave thread ever !!!

Roach is the champion of the documentry and excuse my iggnorance but i had no idea he was suffering from Parkinsons and i tip my hat to his courage and to his fortitude in the face of such a terrible condition !

My Main Man, BestP4P initial thread was top quality even though i don't aggree with his assesment of Oscar .

Oscar is not a natural Showman !!! He isi would imagine a pretty shy person something of an introvert . The way he talks about his mother tells me he is probably not in love with Boxing ,he seemed like bit of a Mummys Boy and eager to please his father and the rest of the world who it seem's are always waiting for the next Oscar DLH Media friendly soundbite.
You here so much about certain fighters weather it's Tysons Obsession with Pigeons or Oscar taking up Boxing because he was getting beaten up by his its hard to figure out whats bullshit and whats truth !!!

Cutting through the Bullplop Oscar was always destined to be a world champion. His father may have pushed him too a great lengths but the world is full of pushy parents who often Obsess about their offsprings achievements. Oscar is different something in him has to be roused for you too see him at his best he is by no means an aggressive person! I've always thought this , Quartey,Vargas,Chavez all bought the best out of Oscar a fighter who IMO is best with his back against the wall or when in danger when asked to meet fire with fire .

People often criticise Oscar for being arrogant ! He's not he is just individual , Floyd may tip well and Oscar may rub some Fighters noses in it by expressing a desire to become a architect when he retires or to take up golf fulltime but being a media friendly superstar all the time when all you really want to do is Enjoy a beer whilst watching the masters is fine just don't hate him for it !!

Anyone remember Oscar before the Tito fight talking about how easy it will be with a big smile on his face and how it will be a walk in the Park ? It wasn't arrogance it was just self belief that didnt come across very well .
The same happened before the Rafeal Ruleas fight !! RR was detirmined to knock Oscar clean out and was voicing his thoughts on the matter quite publicly !! When Oscar was asked he went through the ritualistic ''ive great respect for my oppenents achievements '' speech . At one point he started talking about Golf and how all Boxers should make Great golfers because of Hand to eye cordination . Again it seemed like Arrogance it wasn't,it was Oscar ,without realisin , making his self belief Crystal Clear unconciously this for the biggest fight of his career on a Mexican bank holiday

I for one believe the Fernando Vargas story about them running and Oscar running past FV who had slipt and fallen badly !!
This was just Oscar demonstrating his independance and tunnel visioned clarity of mind too succed , it would have been nice for Oscar to help him up but his mind was prbably elsewere .

Boxers are individuals


Getting back to the documentry i thought Floyd demonstrated a little vulnerability when talking about his Dad !! His sentiment was genuine I'm absolutley convinced of that !! the way he stopped to think and theway his voice changed and his eyes looked left convinced me of that !!!

I don't think he's cracking under the pressure though he's probably realishing it !

One thing demonstrated beyond absolute certainty is Roger and Floyd SNR's iggnorance!! Can't Roger shut his stupid mouth for 2 seconds and realise that when you don't have anythng worthwhile to say the best option is silence !!
Roger talking about his career as a trainer as if Floyd Mayweather would never have been a success without his input- watch the Documentry again and count how many times he says I.

Floyd Snr though takes the cake ! this mans Ego is off the page !!

This man should be put straight once and for all !!

YOUR BOY DON'T NEED YOU ,F*** OFF

Why is he hanging around when he's clearly not wanted ? His presence does nothing except distract Floyd Mayweather and cause tension in the camp !! Having 2 grown men bicker in your corner whilst your father tells you what you shouldn't be doing and never what you should will only hamper Floyds preperation and alter his mindset.

CC swashbuck! that was a real deep asessment you had going on there as well. yeah i think u might have misundertood me a bit im not all ANTI Oscar to be honest. i once was a HUGE fan(prior to the Tito scandalous outcome) i actually am still a fan more so that i put alot of money down(well it was this girl's money actually haha) on oscar vs B-hop. i even had oscar winning most of those rounds and doing rather well until the well u know

but again my point is this is supposed to be a REALITY show meaning i want to see the REAL SIDE of oscar for once. the most realest part i saw of oscar was when he said he loved baseball and dreamed of being a baseball star but then his dad grabs him and said ok we're going to the boxing gym now and that was the end of my baseball dreams. u see man thats keeping it REAL thats what id like to see more of. not the hey watch me hold my legitimate child who i concieved after i married my wife BS.

im not quite sure if u saw the interview they had with oscar and floyd after the diaz vs frietas fight but PBF even called out oscar on SSM. saying all of those fighters at Golden Boy are puppets, referring to SSM not getting paid a dime to spar with oscar. WTF didnt Oscar say ANYTHING at all in defense for SSM, GBP or atleast himself

but then again i would not even be shocked if again theres a GBP Michicgan chapter started up hmmmmm about 10:05pm pacific time come may 5th!