Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!

[porkypara]

Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.

Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.

The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.


I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.



Cant wait.

Newsflash ding bat; EVERYONE'S opponents are handpicked!

Some fights are demanded by the public,others are HANDPICKED by fighters/promoters/mangers.

[LegendBoxing65]

Floyd is ready to be taken by a big 154 pound guy. I am not sure that is Oscar. I think a Vernon Forrest or Margarito would have a good chance to beat him if they keep him at the end of the stick and make him come inside. He is quick, but a fast jab could do the trick . Remember Mosley with Forrest? Same thing, Forrest is not really in Mosley's caliber, yet he beat him 2 times. That is style and timing and size. If Mayweather loses on Sat. it will not be because Oscar is good it will be size. My thinking is that Floyd is good enough to win a decision and Oscar is not good enough to use his size advantage. And Oscar does not have a right hand.

[CutMeMick]

And if you can dig up or give me names of these writers who favored 'Chico' I personally would really appreciate it I don't even need a link just names or site or something.

Watch the HBO telecast of that fight.

I wasn't aware HBOs Jim & Larry were writers.

You'll hear them talking about how Coralles was favored to win. And #6 on the Ring's P4P list (a list "Popo" Freitas never came close to cracking).

Guess what HBO can make you favorable too if you were to fight PBF.

Get serious.

Your telling me to get serious when your using a network (in this case HBO) as your source.
A network that gloryfys IT'S fighters to the fullest. A network that cares solely on the numbers they are pulling over their competitors.
And your telling me get serious.
I have facts that PBF was to face Popo (It's 1:00 am here so I won't do it now but if you come by here tommorrow I promise I'll scan the article for you )
My opinion here is that 'Popo' would beat PBF at Super Feather. around 1999.
Who PBF wen't on to beat after the fact is beyond this debate. For that matter whoever Popo beat is beyond this debate.
Please! arguements like that have no basis, it's a bunch if's and but's.... For you to say: "(you know, Coralles, the guy who beat Popo down until Popo quit")
Thats like if I was backing up my talk by saying "Well Popo wen't on to beat Casamayor who beat Corrales"
thats nonesense I think the one who needs to get serious is you talkin' about PBF beat Corrales who beat Popo.
Whoa! so Duran beat Leonard but Leonard beat Hearns who beat Duran I bet that really confuses you theory here.
and I need to get serious.

[Rick_Rack]

Good work Wacko and Duran lost to Hearns styles make the fight babe!

[Violent Bob]

And if you can dig up or give me names of these writers who favored 'Chico' I personally would really appreciate it I don't even need a link just names or site or something.

Watch the HBO telecast of that fight.

I wasn't aware HBOs Jim & Larry were writers.

I can't believe how dense you are. Watch the HBO telecast, and listen to Jim & Larry talk about how MOST WRITERS favor Chico. I'll be sure to spell everything out for you in the future.

But this one is even better:

Who PBF wen't on to beat after the fact is beyond this debate. For that matter whoever Popo beat is beyond this debate.
Please! arguements like that have no basis, it's a bunch if's and but's....

Truly classic. Because here's the ONLY basis you've given for your "argument" that the soon-to-be-forgotten "Popo" Freitas would have beaten consensus #1 P4P Floyd Mayweather:

My opinion here is that 'Popo' would beat PBF at Super Feather.

Again: Get serious, Mick. This is child's play.

[CutMeMick]

And if you can dig up or give me names of these writers who favored 'Chico' I personally would really appreciate it I don't even need a link just names or site or something.

Watch the HBO telecast of that fight.

I wasn't aware HBOs Jim & Larry were writers.

I can't believe how dense you are. Watch the HBO telecast, and listen to Jim & Larry talk about how MOST WRITERS favor Chico. I'll be sure to spell everything out for you in the future.

But this one is even better:

Who PBF wen't on to beat after the fact is beyond this debate. For that matter whoever Popo beat is beyond this debate.
Please! arguements like that have no basis, it's a bunch if's and but's....

Truly classic. Because here's the ONLY basis you've given for your "argument" that the soon-to-be-forgotten "Popo" Freitas would have beaten consensus #1 P4P Floyd Mayweather:

My opinion here is that 'Popo' would beat PBF at Super Feather.

Again: Get serious, Mick. This is child's play.

BA HAH AH AHAHHA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA HA!!!
Thats it?
Thats all you got?
It took you 9 hrs to come up with that. You didn't say nothing. You know man! you were probably better off not replying at all I would have and I do give you props for the try though.
I am NOT basing my opinion on HBO or some writers thats why it's my opinion, you on the other hand are going by something you heard out of the mouth of 2 commentators. Please! whoever favored Chico to win that fight must have delusional or not fully there. Neither PBFs career now nore Popos career now have any relation to what could have tooken place back then. PBF isn't the same fighters he was back then and Popo isn't the fighter he was back then neither.
All I'm saying is that IMO 'Popo' beats PBF would they have fought in 1999 like it was intended at one point and PBF opted out to fight some other random guy.
For the record you were the one who started with this (you know the Corrales that beat Popo the Corrales that made Popo quit)
Like Corrales beating Popo in 2001 has anything to do with a way a fight would go that would have taken place in 1999.

[Violent Bob]

I figured you had no actual response or articulable reason for why you think a B+ fighter like Freitas would beat Floyd. I'll fill in the blank: because you're a huge Floyd hater and you have your head up Oscar's ass. This is typical of all your posts--your emotion completely clouds any sense of rational argument. But then you get all arrogant and behave as if you've said something compelling or that someone else's clearly laid out disagreement with you is bollocks. It's exasperating. And you're rude. I promise you, if you weren't a moderator and able to keep tabs on who's sad-clicking you, you'd have a hell of a lot more of them.

For the record, I wasn't up all night coming up with a response to your illogical and self-contradictory nonsense. It took all of 20 seconds to read your post and respond.

[CutMeMick]

I figured you had no actual response or articulable reason for why you think a B+ fighter like Freitas would beat Floyd.

You did?
How did you figure this?
Wait... Dont tell me, you figured it the same way you figured black gloves look smaller then white gloves
I wanted to comment on that but figured you looked bad enough already there was no need for me to jump in there plus I couldn't stop laughing. And I gotta admit that Danny_G can be fool sometimes the sh*t he comes up with will either make you laugh or piss you off, still think Danny_Gs Zab/wonder woman vid. is the best ever....

for why you think a B+ fighter like Freitas would beat Floyd.

Question: What grade would you assign to PBF in 1999. Just out of curiosity.

I'll fill in the blank: because you're a huge Floyd hater

Me hate on PBF, nah! my man you wanna see some hate check out my Zab posts now THATS some serious hate right there.
With PBF is more like that annoying kid who flaps his mouth and just talks and talks, contradicts himself and just annoys you.
I think for the most part it's what comes out of his mouth thats annoying, his claims to be better the SRR P4P, better then Ali P4P, better then SRL P4P.

I thought this thread was on PBFs record, nopw that you've ran out of a good comment you hit me up with this:

and you have your head up Oscar's ass.

It might seem that way but thats cause he has a fight coming up, as a fan of the sport and as a born and raised in East L.A. it's only right I back up my boy.

This is typical of all your posts--your emotion completely clouds any sense of rational argument. But then you get all arrogant and behave as if you've said something compelling or that someone else's clearly laid out disagreement with you is bollocks. It's exasperating.

Sounds to me like the emotional one here is you. This thread started on one thing and now your completely hyper ventalating over there about to pass out. Slow down my man, your gonna have a heart attack.

And you're rude.

Me rude? Well your entitled to have your opinions and so Am I. If you really feel I'm rude you and for that matter anyone here can complain to Saddo if they feel like it.
For the most part I welcome as many new members as I can and help out with questions on the forum.
The fact that you told me 'Get Serious' and I replied with 'And you want me to get serious' does not make me rude as I was merely returning the favor.

I promise you, if you weren't a moderator and able to keep tabs on who's sad-clicking you, you'd have a hell of a lot more of them.

Uuuummm!!!
I doesn't take a genius to figure out that at the time you quoted me and you were obviously in disagreement with me my SC ratio went up. I didn't need to and don't need to keep tab's that was simply logic and thanks for confirming.

For the record, I wasn't up all night coming up with a response to your illogical and self-contradictory nonsense. It took all of 20 seconds to read your post and respond.

Well I guess our work here is done.
Hope tp see you here on May 5th or 6th, cause I sure as hell will be here drunk out of my mind more then likely but I'll be here.
Cheers mate!

[p4pking]

Mick, what the hell had Freitas done in 1999 to make him any more credible than many of Floyds opponents even to that date had been Pop hadn't done SHIT in 1999, and if Floyd had beat his ass then he would be remembered just like Sosa, Corley, or a handful of other guys Floyd beat and gets 0 credit for. You really think Popo would have stood a chance either??

[CutMeMick]

CC#387 papking for coming into the debate the right way.

Mick, what the hell had Freitas done in 1999 to make him any more credible than many of Floyds opponents even to that date had been

For starters he was the WBO Champ. He was rated #4 on avg. The fight was really suppose to come off (I'm at work now but I'll post the part of the article) Juarez (Popos trainer) & Popo had even began to train and prepare for the fight as it was gonna happen.

As far as what Popo had done vs. the opponents PBF faced then. Well like I said he was a champ., he was undefeated. IMO at that time 1999-2000 the fight made more sense then PBF facing Jukko who was coming off a loss, Gerena (who is the fighter PBF opted for), Vargas I can't hack at PBF for him as Vargas was coming off some good wins and was some type of WBC champ., Augustus who was 2-4 in his last 6 fights. IMO fighting Popo made more sense.

if Floyd had beat his ass then he would be remembered just like Sosa, Corley, or a handful of other guys Floyd beat and gets 0 credit for.

Well see both Sosa & Corely were challengers, Popo was a champ. and had some credit behind him (more then Augustus, Jukko & Gerena at least)
I give PBF credit for facing: Corrales, Chavez, Hernandez & Castillo in a row. Those opponents he get's credit from me. Other opponents like Bruseles, Mitchelle, even Zab I don't care what you tell me but after loosing to Baldomir he lost it for me. (But I understand that whole thing about the figh beeing signed)

You really think Popo would have stood a chance either??

At that time yes, Popo was a wreckless machine. I know your reading this now but neither fighters is the same that they were in 1999-2000. I mean PBF wasn't as developed as he is now, Popo was younger and stronger 'Chico' showed that the way to beat 'Popo' was power with power. For what it's worth I would have loved to see it.

[The Rookie Fan]

I have a non topic related question for you Mick. Sorry for chaning the subject...

I'm still kinda new in the forum and I saw something in your discussion that I don't understand yet. How does the rating system work anyway? How does you rating go up or down by other peoples responses and how do you monitor this? And finally, how do people know what number to put after a CC? I honestly thaught people were coming up with numbers at random. LOL

[Julius Rain]

I have a non topic related question for you Mick. Sorry for chaning the subject...

I'm still kinda new in the forum and I saw something in your discussion that I don't understand yet. How does the rating system work anyway? How does you rating go up or down by other peoples responses and how do you monitor this? And finally, how do people know what number to put after a CC? I honestly thaught people were coming up with numbers at random. LOL

onces you have 100 post you'll understand how it all works. you'll be able to cool click=cc or sad click=sc others and your ratings will have +'s and -'s depending on what your fellow saddo heads gives you. its al base on sc, cc

[The Rookie Fan]

Thanks for the info. Guess I'll have to wait. The way I've been hooked lately, I don't think I'll have to wait long.

Back to topic....ALL ELITE FIGHTERS HAND PICK THEIR OPPONENTS...ok I'm done.

[CutMeMick]

I have a non topic related question for you Mick. Sorry for chaning the subject...

No need to apologize thats what we are here for to learn.

I'm still kinda new in the forum and I saw something in your discussion that I don't understand yet. How does the rating system work anyway?

The rating system is or some people like myself just use CC or SC more simple.
The rating is referring to people who have agreed with you / CC or people who disgaree with you / SC.
This rating is found below your name right under the glove you'll see a +15/-3 that means 15 people have liked/agreed with something you posted and 3 people have not liked/disagreed with something you posted.
You can start giving out CC's & SC's once you have reached 100 posts.

And finally, how do people know what number to put after a CC? I honestly thaught people were coming up with numbers at random. LOL

Once you read a post and you either agree or disagree you click on [cool] or [sad] (You can't see this yet cause again you don't have the 100 posts) and then the rating changes.
Pretty simple and once you get into it it'll be easy.

Now here, take CC#15 on me and keep posting (no please )
Also don't turn into what is known as 'Cool Click whore' thats someone who asks for CC's instead of earning them, you'll loose respect like that.

Enjoy! your stay here at Casa De Saddos

[Puya]

I think that list is very decent those guys where strong contenders and champs.

I just can wait to get bored out of mi mind watching the fight saturday first the boring card and then the main boring event, I just can't wait. I will be sipping in a glass of my $19 bottle of Whisky ( Chivas Regal 12 years)