Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
1. Winky: Beats Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, ODLH, and maybe even Hopkins prime for prime. He beat Trinidad, Quartey, Vargas, Mosley twice, Jermain Taylor, and a whole slew of good or great fighters.
2. B-Hop: He only gets the edge prime for prime over Winky due to size. However I still say he beats the rest, and he was a true fundamentalist of the sport even though he is a little more unorthodox than people give him credit for... I've hardly ever seen a guy catch somebody like he did Tarver so many times looking at the ground.
3. ODLH. went 1-1 against Mosey, Beat Trinidad, fought Chavez and Whitaker, Beat Vargas more impressively IMO than Trinidad, IMO squeezed by Quartey, Gave Hopkins a good fight at middleweight until the size differential kicked in.
4. Trinidad: hard puncher, proven he couldn't beat the very best, but looked more impressive than them against quality opponents.
6. Mosley: Godly fast, and amazingly powerful for his size, but he wasn't all that great at 147 and up... Without his overwhelming power like he had at 135 he wasn't the best boxer, and he had the Meldrick Taylor complex where he always has to bang with the opponent even when its failed him.
Ike Quartey: amazing fighter who was the only one I've seen to truly hurt Oscar, and he knocked him down first. But his fight with Vargas puts him behind Mosley.
Tito could and did fight and beat the best!
And winky beat him at middleweight.. So that's not really sticking to the topic of best of the new millenium in the separate weight classes!
The best guy I saw Trinidad beat was Vargas... who alot of other guys beat as well. I didn't read the topic carefully enough... my bad I thought it was 90's and 2000's

In this case
Hopkins
ODLH/Mosley
Trinidad
rest
Hmm... So who was the best guy DLH officially beat?

About the topic. I should have been more specific I guess. I ment who was the best in general from around 97 to 2003 which is more or less when they were all in their primes amd fighting eachother.

I also asked who would win in a tournament at 147, 154 and 160. Not necessarilly who was the best at each weight class. For example if you believe Hopkins would win all three turnaments, that is a valid response even though Hopkins never faught lower than 160.

Lets talk about reccords for a wile though. Who do you think has the best all around quality of opposition.