Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
Officialy is bullshit, but he beat Whitaker officially at the lower weights, and so did Trinidad, but it was a different Whitaker. Also Oscar beats Vargas like Trinidad, He beat most of the same guys officially, but HE DID beat Trinidad... you can't win 9 rounds run 3 and lose the fight because you ran 3 rounds. I don't think he actually won 9 rounds but it was close. He also later beat Mosley IMO, and that of many. He beat Chavez. He didn't get his a** kicked as bad from Hopkins(though Hopkins wasn't as good as when he fought Trinidad).

At 147
I think it would be between Oscar and Mosley
at 154
Winky:Oscar
160
Bernard:Winky

I think Winky would still be up there but in terms of what he had done up to this point wasn't enough. Nobody even hardly knew who he was in the early 2000's.
Officially is bullshit I have a problem with this statement. Boxing, like we all know, is very different than other sports. The scoring is very much subjective to the people doing the scoring. Except for a knock down or point penalty there is no specific event for which you automatically get points. But, unless you want professional boxing to have same scoring as the armatures, which I think most would agree would be disastrous, this is in fact a good thing. Why? Because there is absolutely no way to quantify how much more damage one punch did versus another. However, we can't have one guy make such a subjective decision so it was decided to have three people decide. What they say is what goes. We may not agree with them, but those are the rules in this sport that we all love. Officially is what's in the reccord books and officially is not bullshit.
Unless of course you are suggesting foul play and that the judges were corrupted.

I'm sorry I don't think its fair to say that DLH beat Tito like if it was a fact any more than it is fair for me to say that Quartey or Sturm beat DLH. It is not a fact. It is a fact that many people do not agree with what you say. It is a fact that out of the three professional judges scoring the fight (4 if you count Ledderman) not one of them saw DLH win the fight.

Now if you say that you believe DLH is better than Tito because you believe that DLH did enough to win the fight then I respect your opinion and I am glad to hear what you think on the subject. All five mentioned are great fighters and I honestly believe that if they all fought eachother 10 times each one of them would win at least 3 or 4.